FILL IN THE BLANK: It's okay to kill a baby in the womb when ________ (married, origin)
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If you feel this strongly, and find yourself pregnant, you should probably not abort.
Because YOU feel some way, you have no right to tell me that I should feel the same.
If I get pregnant, I'm aborting.
Period.
And, it's none of your business.
I agree, chielgirl. It is ALWAYS your decision to procreate or not. My views about it as a moral question are not controlling and society should not intervene either. You have to live with yourself and abide by whatever moral code you do or do not have, period.
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Rifleman, I have to disagree with you.
A woman, at all times, for any reason, has the right to control her own body.
Like it or not, agree with it or not, it's still her choice.
Agree!
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Originally Posted by chielgirl
Why is it your business what someone chooses to do with their body?
Do you really think that your "pity" or judgment matters at all?
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Originally Posted by chielgirl
Ah yes, I was waiting for the woman as ***** comment.
Then you should never have an abortion.
You have no say over what any other human decides to do with their body.
Again, it's a fetus, not a baby.
Again, I agree with all but the last sentence. Euphemisms are useful to hide the brutal realities from our conscious mind . . . but reality remains. A developing human is still a baby . . . changing its name does NOT alter that. "Bacon and eggs over easy" is more palatable than "sliced pig butt and aborted baby chickens over easy" . . . but it still is what it is.
I agree. I am personally completely against abortion but I support a woman's right to make that decision without intervention from the state or law. Pro-life and pro-choice need not be contradictory positions.
Again, I agree with all but the last sentence. Euphemisms are useful to hide the brutal realities from our conscious mind . . . but reality remains. A developing human is still a baby . . . changing its name does NOT alter that. "Bacon and eggs over easy" is more palatable than "sliced pig butt and aborted baby chickens over easy" . . . but it still is what it is.
You're the one playing with word for emotional punch.
Remove the fetus and see if it can live without severe measures.
If it can, it's a baby and that's at viability.
Until then, it's not a euphemism, it's a fetus.
Developing is the key.
It is not a baby until it is developed.
You're the one playing with word for emotional punch.
Remove the fetus and see if it can live without severe measures.
If it can, it's a baby and that's at viability.
Until then, it's not a euphemism, it's a fetus.
Developing is the key.
It is not a baby until it is developed.
Being part of the over the hill age generation. In my opinion a baby does not become a Human until it is at least 40 years old.
Sometimes, I wish retroactive abortions could be done up to the age of 30 years. (But of course my Grand kids are not included)
You're the one playing with word for emotional punch.
Remove the fetus and see if it can live without severe measures.
If it can, it's a baby and that's at viability.
Until then, it's not a euphemism, it's a fetus.
Developing is the key.
It is not a baby until it is developed.
I understand the emotional need to make such distinctions . . . but they are ultimately bogus. There are all kinds of fetuses. But one within a woman is definitely NOT a developing fish, dog, cat, rat, pig, elephant, or anything else. If it is within a woman's womb . . . it is a developing human baby, period . . . (Alien predators notwithstanding)
You're the one playing with word for emotional punch.
Remove the fetus and see if it can live without severe measures.
If it can, it's a baby and that's at viability.
Until then, it's not a euphemism, it's a fetus.
Developing is the key.
It is not a baby until it is developed.
I agree with you. A simple dictionary will confirm.
I understand the emotional need to make such distinctions . . . but they are ultimately bogus. There are all kinds of fetuses. But one within a woman is definitely NOT a developing fish, dog, cat, rat, pig, elephant, or anything else. If it is within a woman's womb . . . it is a developing human baby, period . . . (Alien predators notwithstanding)
Cut me a break and play your games with someone else.
I'm not going to bite and I'm not going to argue.
No need to respond, I won't be reading your comments.
Last edited by chielgirl; 11-13-2011 at 09:30 AM..
You're the one playing with word for emotional punch.
Remove the fetus and see if it can live without severe measures.
If it can, it's a baby and that's at viability.
Until then, it's not a euphemism, it's a fetus.
Developing is the key.
It is not a baby until it is developed.
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Originally Posted by peppermint
I agree with you. A simple dictionary will confirm.
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Originally Posted by MysticPhD
I understand the emotional need to make such distinctions . . . but they are ultimately bogus. There are all kinds of fetuses. But one within a woman is definitely NOT a developing fish, dog, cat, rat, pig, elephant, or anything else. If it is within a woman's womb . . . it is a developing human baby, period . . . (Alien predators notwithstanding)
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Originally Posted by chielgirl
Cut me a break and play your games with someone else.
I'm not going to bite and I'm not going to argue.
No need to respond, I won't be reading your comments.
Someone will. The reason it is such a difficult decision for a woman is because it is a baby (whatever stage it is in). That changes nothing about the right of the mother to continue to procreate or to abort. That choice is ONLY hers and should never be infringed.
I am just far too much of a realist and pragmatist to pretend that the euphemistic word games are anything other than designed for emotional comfort. Anything we humans intend to do or make a part of our ongoing existence always is made more palatable by word choice. No one wants to order "sliced baby cow in melted curdled cow secretions" when they want to enjoy "veal parmigiano" or "amputated baby sheep" instead of "leg of lamb."
Word games aren't neccessary when what 'it' is is only a more advanced stage of development of a human than the egg or the sperm is.
All three are potential babies .
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