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Old 05-12-2021, 02:52 PM
 
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plants are not dumb.
but then, wise humans realize that.
No dumber than my thumb.
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Old 05-13-2021, 07:57 AM
 
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I'm not into comparative religion and am mostly familiar with Islam. Muslims feel close to God because they pray and speak directly to him. "Him" is used for linguistic purposes. God does not have a gender. There are no middle men they confess to nor are there any idols they use as a placeholder. Although many Muslims are only Muslim by name, Islam is not just treated as a social club where members are given ID cards and that's that. It is their way of life (think Shariah). Like a country has rules and regulations, so does Islam. Islam would no longer be Islam if it were to continually go through changes and reforms, so Muslims stick to the teachings of the Quran and sunnah (way of the prophet) as it originally was. They also do not believe the Creator is part of the creation.

Dont all who pray, regardless of their religion, pray to god and speak directly to him/her/it?
Do you know of any other kind?
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Old 05-13-2021, 09:40 AM
 
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Dont all who pray, regardless of their religion, pray to god and speak directly to him/her/it?
Do you know of any other kind?
So what?
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Old 05-13-2021, 08:07 PM
 
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I realized i have seen this video before, you might have posted it. The video is short and full of facile connections without any authority. True Hinduism is not the way hindus call religion. There was a river named Sindu, which also means a bay, which has disappeared, and traders coming into india might have called the people the encountered as the people of the Sindu. Even religion is not a thing, it is a western christian idea. It is not brahminism, no such thing. It is dharma, meaning order, what is right. There are far better sources than this video to understand Hinduism. What is your question anyway?
You have to remember Hinduism is not an organized religion as Abrahamic religions are, there is not even a concept of such a thing.
There is no special time line, hinduism in not bound by history or time. It is timeless.
Man is not any special form apart from the world. All life originated the same way, made of the very same stuff, just organized differently.
The theory of karma and the cycle of birth and death is an important aspect of being born human. The human birth is only for one reason - to work out the consequences of actions in previous births, and to realize one’s true nature which is that it is the same as Brhman. That is it.
ETA- The purpose of human birth is to stop the cycle of birth and death through this realization.

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OK Thanks for that.

Moving on to the bold point.
Can you please elaborate little on this one? How does this process work?
Still waiting an answer on the bold underlined above. Please explain this to us since you made a claim here.
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Old 05-14-2021, 02:39 AM
 
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I'm not into comparative religion and am mostly familiar with Islam. Muslims feel close to God because they pray and speak directly to him. "Him" is used for linguistic purposes. God does not have a gender. There are no middle men they confess to nor are there any idols they use as a placeholder. Although many Muslims are only Muslim by name, Islam is not just treated as a social club where members are given ID cards and that's that. It is their way of life (think Shariah). Like a country has rules and regulations, so does Islam. Islam would no longer be Islam if it were to continually go through changes and reforms, so Muslims stick to the teachings of the Quran and sunnah (way of the prophet) as it originally was. They also do not believe the Creator is part of the creation.
The way it originally was?
It began with Passover, Pentecost, and Tabernacles just like Christianity but the Jews wouldn't accept Mohammed so he changed them.

It would be cool to see Christian, Muslim and Jew keep just one day together, the feast of nations would do.
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Old 05-14-2021, 05:41 AM
 
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Still waiting an answer on the bold underlined above. Please explain this to us since you made a claim here.
to you, no. you seem to have your own sources to ‘learn’ about other religions from the kind of links you post. it is a pity that as a muslim you show so much disrespect in a thread about spirituality. i have more respect for islam than you seem to do. stay on topic.
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Old 05-14-2021, 09:16 AM
 
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to you, no. you seem to have your own sources to ‘learn’ about other religions from the kind of links you post. it is a pity that as a muslim you show so much disrespect in a thread about spirituality. i have more respect for islam than you seem to do. stay on topic.
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Old 05-14-2021, 09:21 AM
 
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Default Do you think Jews and Muslims are as close to god as Hindus and Christians?

IMO, any religion that believes in a wrathful, vengeful God who needs to be appeased and has created an eternal Hell to punish ANYONE for ANY reason is not remotely close to God, period.
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Old 05-19-2021, 08:24 PM
 
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to you, no. you seem to have your own sources to ‘learn’ about other religions from the kind of links you post. it is a pity that as a muslim you show so much disrespect in a thread about spirituality. i have more respect for islam than you seem to do. stay on topic.
Don’t worry about respecting my faith.
That’s your personal choice and decision, and it doesn’t make a difference to me either way you think.

So let’s get back to the topic.

You made a claim in your post that


The human birth is only for one reason - to work out the consequences of actions in previous births

And I said

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OK Thanks for that.

Moving on to the bold point.
Can you please elaborate little on this one? How does this process work?

There is no disrespect to any religion here. We have moderators here. If I had violated any terms, I would’ve gotten the message.

Please explain this bold part to us. I genuinely want to know how this process works?
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Old 05-19-2021, 08:31 PM
 
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IMO, any religion that believes in a wrathful, vengeful God who needs to be appeased and has created an eternal Hell to punish ANYONE for ANY reason is not remotely close to God, period.
So that takes out Hinduism as well?
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