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Old 12-02-2011, 05:24 PM
 
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Nope. You need to get it that "Allah" is Arabic for English "God". In other words, "Noah's God", "Abraham's God" and "Moses' God". Oh, and when Arabic Muslims pray in Arabic, they pray to "Allah". They don't become Muslims for that.

And Arabic Christians say "Allah", as well, of course.
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:24 PM
 
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OK, so someone agrees with my observation.
That might be overstating it. As a Christian I believe God having been man allows for a greater connection/understanding, but in the things you say after this I don't know that it's relevant.

I think Muslims and Jews do or can feel God is guiding them, etc. I stated that I feel both can emphasize a deep connection to God. I meant more that Christians, and maybe Hindus, focus a bit more on God's loving and understanding them/us.
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:59 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Most Hindus consider themselves monotheistic.

What, you say????!!!! A religion with 365,000,000 gods?????

A careful, non-prejudiced, and thorough study of Hindu theology and cosmology reveals that all of the Hindu "Deities" and "Avatars" are merely aspects of a single unified God-head.

Many Hindus also believe that Siddhartha Gautama - The Buddha - was the latest Avatar of the god Vishnu.
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Hinduism teaches a multiple of gods--some you can create yourself.
Wrong. You do not understand Hinduism. You should not comment on something you know nothing about ... it makes you appear to be the fool.
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Old 12-03-2011, 05:37 PM
 
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The Gospel accounts. They are excellent historical references.
They are religious but not very historically accurate.
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Old 12-03-2011, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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By your definition, Christians may not be close to god, but, from my observations, they sure feel close to their gods.

The golfer Payne Stewart died wearing a WWJD (what would Jesus do) bracelet. The football player Tim Tebow is always asking his god for guidance. My Christian friend is always passing our little momentos with crosses on them. Something seems to motivate Christians.
Muslims pray nearly every conscious moment of their life. each thing we do Begins with "Bismillah ir Rahman ir Raheem" (In the name of God, the beneficent, the most merciful) We pray before and after each action. although most of our prayers are personal and in our own words, many common Du'as are pretty much said by all of us.

An error many non-Muslims make is in assuming our only prayers are our 5 Very formal obligatory prayers, which are more like a Worship service and not a simple prayer. Du'as come closer to the Christian concept of prayer and these we are praying nearly non-stop. Our entire day is spent as a conversation with God. Not only in word but in actions and thoughts. Even our Songs (Nasheeds) are prayers.

Here is a page of my favorite Nasheeds.

Nasheeds

A listing of some of the most common Du'as and when to say them can be found here:

Collection of Many Dua

Although there are many lists of suggested Du'as we feel the best du'as are those we say in our own words and with sincerity and understand them to be our personal conversation with Allaah(swt)

There is a saying that we often mention, "Allaah is closer to us than our own jugular vein"

We do not believe Allaah(swt) is present on earth, but we do believe he knows all we say to him and that he does answer all prayers. We do not believe we always get what we ask for in prayer, but get what we need and what is best for us. If it happens to be the very same thing we are asking for, that only makes it more enjoyable. but the fact is we often do not know what is best. However we place full trust Allaah(swt) will give us exactly what we need at the time we need it.
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:34 PM
 
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Very well stated, Woody!

What if you need guidance in your life or you are faced with a difficult decision? Do you pray to your god to guide you? Will your god help you make the right decision?

How about if you are tempted to do something you know is wrong? Do you ask your god to give you the strength to resist the temptation?

I'm guessing a Christian would definitely answer Yes to these questions.
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:51 PM
 
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Christ is God.
Christ was a man just like any other.
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Old 12-03-2011, 09:06 PM
 
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What if you need guidance in your life or you are faced with a difficult decision? Do you pray to your god to guide you? Will your god help you make the right decision?

How about if you are tempted to do something you know is wrong? Do you ask your god to give you the strength to resist the temptation?
A Torah-observant Jew would look to the Bible and its 613 Mitzvot (Commandments), as well as the Talmud (Oral Torah) and rabbinic writings, as well as prayer.
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Old 12-03-2011, 09:07 PM
 
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Very well stated, Woody!

What if you need guidance in your life or you are faced with a difficult decision? Do you pray to your god to guide you? Will your god help you make the right decision?

How about if you are tempted to do something you know is wrong? Do you ask your god to give you the strength to resist the temptation?

I'm guessing a Christian would definitely answer Yes to these questions.
Yes we do pray constantly for guidance, and to gain strength to overcome temptation. While we do not believe God(swt) is part of or within the world we believe he is in full control and capable of changing what ever he desires. We do believe he knows each of us personally and knows us even better than we know ourselves. We see no need for him to come into what he has created as he can do all things with just a thought and no need to become part of earth. He only need to say for something to be and it is.

Does the owner of a goldfish need to dive into the bowl to feed the goldfish?
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Old 12-03-2011, 09:26 PM
 
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A Torah-observant Jew would look to the Bible and its 613 Mitzvot (Commandments), as well as the Talmud (Oral Torah) and rabbinic writings, as well as prayer.
Great answer, Walt.

So a Jew would look at reference books to learn how to address a problem. Maybe that is why Jews stress education so much.

I bet a Christian would simply ask his god for an answer.

Big, big difference!

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