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LOL...I'm pretty sure that my dogs know I'm the alpha in the house...but the dog that used to bark if someone was yelling was blind..and I think it freaked her out...the others just ignore it...I'm a yeller so if I want their attention I have to speak in a different tone. What is the Dog Whisperer someone else mentioned that, is it a show?
Wow I can't believe you never heard of him. I think his show is on National Geographic Channel, but sometimes it's on the other learning channels as well. (TLC, Discovery, etc...) He has a great knack for having the ability to walk up to any dog, regardless of how volatile it is, and he'll slip a 25 cent leash around its' neck and take it for a walk with no problem. He explains a lot of things on his show, but it surprises me with the popularity he has received, how people still don't get it
Wow I can't believe you never heard of him. I think his show is on National Geographic Channel, but sometimes it's on the other learning channels as well. (TLC, Discovery, etc...) He has a great knack for having the ability to walk up to any dog, regardless of how volatile it is, and he'll slip a 25 cent leash around its' neck and take it for a walk with no problem. He explains a lot of things on his show, but it surprises me with the popularity he has received, how people still don't get it
Cesar Millan, The Dog Whisperer, is a great man.
Everybody who owns dogs should check him out!
To stay on-topic: No, animals don't have souls.
However, if you believe that humans have souls, then you should believe that animals do. Humans are animals. Remember the Transitive Property from Geometry class?
According to Buddhism animals must have souls because a person could be reborn as an animal.
I don't see why animals can't have souls.
Don't they feel emotions? Don't they also have brains?
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Hath not a Jew eyes? Hath not a Jew hands, organs,
dimensions, senses, affections, passions; fed with
the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject
to the same diseases, heal'd by the same means,
warm'd and cool'd by the same winter and summer
as a Christian is? If you prick us, do we not bleed?
If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us,
do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that.
If a Jew wrong a Christian, what is his humility?
Revenge. If a Christian wrong a Jew, what should his
sufferance be by Christian example? Why, revenge.
The villainy you teach me, I will execute,
and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction. William Shakespeare (1564 - 1616),
The Merchant of Venice Act III, scene I
To stay on-topic: No, animals don't have souls.
However, if you believe that humans have souls, then you should believe that animals do. Humans are animals. Remember the Transitive Property from Geometry class?
I don't think that's how the transitive property works. You could use it to say that humans have souls if animals have souls because humans are animals:
All humans are animals.
All animals have souls.
Therefore all humans have souls.
That works, but if you say:
All humans are animals.
All humans have souls.
Therefore all animals have souls?
No, that doesn't follow the transitive property.
That's like saying:
All birds are animals.
All birds have feathers.
All animals have feathers.
See why that doesn't work?
Anyway, I don't know if I believe in souls at all, but I think that if there are such things as souls, there is no reason why they would be unique to humans. I don't know that all creatures necessarily have them either, like bugs for example. I don't know where the line would be drawn though, I think it's a tough question. BUT, I think that the only reason to think that souls would be unique to humans would be because humans are somehow specifically special in "God's eyes", such as being "made in the image of God" which I think some people interpret to mean that humans uniquely have souls. I do not believe this, so I don't think that souls are unique to humans. Surely, I think that IF I have a soul, then my dog does too though.
According to quanum physics there is consciousness in everything, and that to me is the soul that the bible speaks of. So I would say that all living things have a soul. This consciousness isn't what you think of as being awake. It is not conciousness vs subconsciousness. It is said that there was One Consciousness that created everything, according to quantum physics, and we are all part of that one Consciousness. I think that is what the Bible means by "God is everywhere."
I don't think that's how the transitive property works. You could use it to say that humans have souls if animals have souls because humans are animals:
All humans are animals.
All animals have souls.
Therefore all humans have souls.
That works, but if you say:
All humans are animals.
All humans have souls.
Therefore all animals have souls?
No, that doesn't follow the transitive property.
That's like saying:
All birds are animals.
All birds have feathers.
All animals have feathers.
See why that doesn't work?
Right, only your 1st example as well as the converse one (below) work:
All humans are animals.
No animals have souls.
Therefore no humans have souls.
The main point is sentence #1: ALL HUMANS ARE ANIMALS.
Therefore our spiritual analyses of humans should extend to animals as well.
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Anyway, I don't know if I believe in souls at all, but I think that if there are such things as souls, there is no reason why they would be unique to humans. I don't know that all creatures necessarily have them either, like bugs for example. I don't know where the line would be drawn though, I think it's a tough question. BUT, I think that the only reason to think that souls would be unique to humans would be because humans are somehow specifically special in "God's eyes", such as being "made in the image of God" which I think some people interpret to mean that humans uniquely have souls. I do not believe this, so I don't think that souls are unique to humans. Surely, I think that IF I have a soul, then my dog does too though.
I agree. Personally I don't believe that humans have souls. That's why I say that animals also do not. If I did believe that humans had souls, I would also believe that animals do.
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Why or why not?
Proof, either way?
Is there an afterlife for animals?
disclaimer: these are just opinions don't take them as the absolute truth
Why? because they have feelings, they can be happy or sad and they are also sensitive to your feelings, I guess that would be the proof too.
is there an afterlife for animals?
well if you believe in reincarnation for sure, we are all childrens of God, some more evolved than others and we are under an evolutionary process to return to our heavenly father/mother, we human beings reincarnate too until we attain self realization like Jesus Christ, Buddha, Krishna and other great men of God did.
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Humans are animals too!
