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Google whats that? Never heard of it. Anyways, Christianity had nothing to do with Rome falling. Let me ask you this: What people/culture is responsible for just about all the modern technology and advancements over the past 500 years?
Well if you have never heard about the people sacking Rome, maybe you should not declare with certainty that you know their religion and the effects the sackings had.
Europeans. Though to be fair many of them were Jews. With that said, much of that is due to the fact that Christianity was put in its place. The fact is when Early Modern Europeans were making discoveries they were correcting people like Aristotle because there is about a 1000 year void there.
As I said the fruits of unrestrained Christianity are going from trial by jury to trial by ordeal.
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The "Rule of Law" has its roots in the Catholic church.
No it doesn't that is absurd. The rule of law has its roots in ancient Greece and Rome. More specifically common law has its roots among the pre-Christian Norse and Anglo Saxons. The only system of government that has its roots in the Catholic Church is Absolute Monarchy.
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[a] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.
3. But um, let me ask you this, if you don't think that Jesus existed, even though I presented you with evidence, what makes you think Nero, Julius Caesar, Socrates, Alexander the Great, Moses, David of the Bible, Daniel of the Bible, Plato, the founder of Islam Muhammad, or any historical figure from around that time period, within a thousand years or so, existed? Or any of the other Egyptian Kings, or anybody ever written about in history EVER?
Why does the world base history on B.C. Before Christ? And A.D. After Death? If Jesus never existed???
There are many written documents that factually describe the wars and events carried out by Muhammad, Caesar, etc. In fact, several of the people you mention are even depicted in coins of the era. There's no coin of Christ ever having existed, no proof of anything anywhere. Simply a gigantic religion that began from a tiny group, as all things do. Things always start small and grow. Things never start on a gigantic level first.
Christianity grew for the same reason Mohammed, one man, was able to establish a religion so successfully among so many. Some religions forcibly demanded (and still demand) converts, through proselytizing, at times by threatening to kill, at times by forcing conversions, at times by causing people to feel "guilty," at times by offering financial rewards, etc., etc., ad infinitum. Once a religion grows, its growth and size, itself, draws converts. Proselytizing religions grow that way (in other words, people are converted that way), and soon enough, there are countries believing the stuff, setting up buildings to worship the thing, and "fluffing up" the religion in myriad ways. Before you know it, there are lots of people belonging to that religion, all of them repeating the same tenets.
Christianity was very successfully promoted. One of the biggest successes Christianity had was that the biggest haters of the sect (the Italians, or "Romans" if you prefer the older name), who executed the alleged messiah of the Christian religion via their method of capital punishment of crucifixion, for having challenged Roman authority - ending up converting because one Italian emperor converted and forced everybody else to convert along with him, much the way Egyptian emperors switched religions and forced the whole country to also convert.
By the way, crucifixion was a form of impaling that was used by the Carthiginians and Romans. The person was impaled on a piece of wood (a single piece of wood, or one shaped like a cross, depending on the day I guess) and left there to die of thirst, hunger, blood loss, pain trauma, infection, the elements, etc. Often this took a pretty long time - days and days. The Romans crucified LOTS of people daily all over their empire (which included Israel), from some years before BC to some years after AD. Italians were in love with impalement as capital punishment.
I'll digress here to say that the promotion of Christianity as a belief was so successful, that they eventually created myths. One of these myths says that the killers of the Christian messiah were not the Italians, but the Jews. This was part of the propaganda machine of Christianity. There are many reasons why this is now known to be BS. One of the biggest was that Jews back then in Israel had capital punishment, which according to their laws could only take place via one of 4 methods: stoning, burning, decapitation, and strangulation (like hanging). Further, the emperors did not take suggestions from "the people" as to whether someone should be executed. There are many reasons why early Christian propagandists would lie about this, but they lied about plenty of other things, so why focus solely on this lie.
In any case, I digressed.
The reason "B.C." and "A.D." came into vogue is due to the calendar devised by Dennis the Dwarf (also known as Dionysius Exiguus, Dennis the Short, and other names). This was a monk that came up with a brand new way to keep dates and devised a new calendar. He was the one that came up with A.D. (Anno Domini) to signify everything after Christ. The early church rather liked his calendar and kept it and the monk's use of the term, A.D. (By the way, some people don't use A.D. at all, but use C.E. "Common Era" instead).
Anyway, since Anno Domini - "Year of Our Lord") was everything AFTER it was supposed that Christ lived, the use of B.C. began to be used for the purpose of referring to the time before A.D. Since then, it became one of the easy demarcation lines, to use BC and AD, because it allows everyone to further narrow down timeframes. Very, very handy. I'm sure if someone would come up with other demarcations, say, for example, BWW1, and AWW1 (before WW1 and after WW1), those too would likely end up being used to refer to time.
No it doesn't that is absurd. The rule of law has its roots in ancient Greece and Rome. More specifically common law has its roots among the pre-Christian Norse and Anglo Saxons. The only system of government that has its roots in the Catholic Church is Absolute Monarchy.
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