Did Noah's Ark really exit? (New information) (verse, Earth, Judaism)
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The idea of Pangea is used to get over the problem of the animals marching across the seas - which is hard to explain. The evidence is, however, that Pangea was one land mass and the rest was ocean - the same amount that we have now, more or less. In order to drown Pangaea, you need to double the global water.
Whether Pangea stays in one lump or splits up (it is useful to explain the supposed 'evolved' types of animals in the various continents) that water has to go somewhere. If you argue that underground springs appeared, they seem to have gone now. I know, because, in prior debates frantic efforts have been made to produce some kinds of underground reservoirs to cache this drain -away of water - pretty much equal to what we have now (and what, according to mere scientific geology is pretty much what we have always had) and without much success. The supposed rearing up of the mountains through the flood -waters to give the ark somewhere to rest is not going to make much difference to the flood. The waters are going to have to recede - that is, drain away.
Where did the water go?
If Pangea could split and all of the mountains and ocean valleys suddenly appear within the last 4000 years, then nothing is impossible. It's all magic.
If Pangea could split and all of the mountains and ocean valleys suddenly appear within the last 4000 years, then nothing is impossible. It's all magic.
You also have to fit in the brief time-span the coming together of Pangaea. Pangaea wasn't the original configuration. But it's easy when you can pose miracles willy-nilly.
Well, there we have the Other problem that comes with getting God to wave a magic wand to dispose of a knotty practical problem. Once he does that..one wonders why the whole bloody circus was necessary anyway.
The idea of Pangea is used to get over the problem of the animals marching across the seas - which is hard to explain. The evidence is, however, that Pangea was one land mass and the rest was ocean - the same amount that we have now, more or less. In order to drown Pangaea, you need to double the global water.
Whether Pangea stays in one lump or splits up (it is useful to explain the supposed 'evolved' types of animals in the various continents) that water has to go somewhere. If you argue that underground springs appeared, they seem to have gone now. I know, because, in prior debates frantic efforts have been made to produce some kinds of underground reservoirs to cache this drain -away of water - pretty much equal to what we have now (and what, according to mere scientific geology is pretty much what we have always had) and without much success. The supposed rearing up of the mountains through the flood -waters to give the ark somewhere to rest is not going to make much difference to the flood. The waters are going to have to recede - that is, drain away.
Where did the water go?
P.s I gather that you might prefer a non -Pangae Flood scenario. That has its own problems One of which is that Pangea existed in a YE scenario and had to split up (as it did) but in a thousands -year time frame rather than millions.
The water went into the oceans. What part are you not understanding? There are some massively deep valleys in the ocean. The mariana trench is what....35000 feet deep. That's deeper than Mt. Everest. I have no problem believing that as underwater valleys formed, the water drained off into them.
There is also a massive amount of water locked up in the polar ice caps. Remember...if algore is correct, global warming is going to cause that to melt--and submerge huge parts of the world.
The water went into the oceans. What part are you not understanding? There are some massively deep valleys in the ocean. The mariana trench is what....35000 feet deep. That's deeper than Mt. Everest. I have no problem believing that as underwater valleys formed, the water drained off into them.
There is also a massive amount of water locked up in the polar ice caps. Remember...if algore is correct, global warming is going to cause that to melt--and submerge huge parts of the world.
Uh, water was already in the oceans since they were to be covered as well. Melting of the ice caps would only raise the water level about 200 ft. Besides, how do you know that there were any ice caps back then, since you can't even be sure that the sea water was salty?
The water went into the oceans. What part are you not understanding? There are some massively deep valleys in the ocean. The mariana trench is what....35000 feet deep. That's deeper than Mt. Everest. I have no problem believing that as underwater valleys formed, the water drained off into them.
There is also a massive amount of water locked up in the polar ice caps. Remember...if algore is correct, global warming is going to cause that to melt--and submerge huge parts of the world.
I know You have no problem believing all sorts of impossibilities, but this is beyond silly...Before the so called flood where was all this water that you think drained into the ocean trenches, and froze in the polar icecaps?.....Where did it come from.? While you are at it, please explain how the trenches and ice caps formed in half a year without causing massive waves which would have capsized the mythical barge of Noah's.
Well, there we have the Other problem that comes with getting God to wave a magic wand to dispose of a knotty practical problem. Once he does that..one wonders why the whole bloody circus was necessary anyway.
Well it wouldn't have happened if people would have turned away from their sins to worship God. I mean it only took 120 years for Noah to build the Ark and for people to decide what and who they wanted to worship. They mocked and jeered Noah for constructing the Ark, out of all that, 8 people entered the Ark as the rest of the world perished. If one remembers pre-flood, Methuselah(939 years old) died right before the flood was to occur, post-flood one notices how the longevity of man's life was shortened considerably.
Last edited by perry335654; 08-02-2013 at 03:10 PM..
Thanks lads. Also, even if the trenches were not there before..well I haven't done the math, but I doubt they would make much difference to the 100% + additional global ocean on top of what was already there.
Also, The man who Noahs it all assured us that mountains were high enough to have snowlines for the freeze -drying technology to be available. That is a lot of extra water to cover those as well.
In spaces previously filled with what? Nacho cheese sauce?
Now if the Creation Museum guy had an exhibit that showed Noah feeding all that nacho cheese sauce to his animals he'd probably still be in business. Maybe a little stand on the way out where people could buy "Noah's Nacho Cheese Sauce" for the drive home.
Last edited by DewDropInn; 08-02-2013 at 03:13 PM..
In spaces previously filled with what? Nacho cheese sauce?
Now if the Creation Museum guy had an exhibit that showed Noah feeding all that nacho cheese sauce to his animals he'd probably still be in business. Maybe a little stand on the way out where people could buy "Noah's Nacho Cheese Sauce" for the drive home.
That would've solved the waste issue for Noah as well, considering all of the animals would've been constipated from eating all that cheese.
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that comes with getting God to wave a magic wand to dispose of a knotty practical problem. Once he does that..one wonders why the whole bloody circus was necessary anyway.
