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Well my pastor posted it on FB and I just don't want to be a sheep and believe everythign he says. I do want to have faith in God and believe what I'm supposed to believe about Him to please Him. So if it makes Him happy for me to believe His word is true, then I guess I believe it's true. I know that sounds like a lame answer.
Like I said, I was just curious -- not seeking to slam you for your reply. It's your answer ... only you can decide if it's lame and deserves reconsidering.
As a believing Christian, I'm afraid to ask, but OTOH, I have a feeling it would be interesting to see your reaction to this quote:
"The Bible is a RELIABLE COLLECTION of HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS written by eyewitnesses during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. Their REPORT is of SUPERNATURAL EVENTS which took place as FULFILLMENT of SPECIFIC PROPHECIES and declare that their record is divine in nature and not human in origin.”
My reaction is....Yet another assertion by someone who is not in any position to know that what is being asserted is true. Yet another assertion by someone who is passing along an unsubstantiated and ancient claim from an age where people subscribed to superstitious explanations for what is now understood to be natural phenomena. Yet another assertion by someone who has not taken the time and effort to examine the validity of the claim.
In sum...yet another assertion which comes with no reason to give it any attention or weight.
As a believing Christian, I'm afraid to ask, but OTOH, I have a feeling it would be interesting to see your reaction to this quote:
"The Bible is a RELIABLE COLLECTION of HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS written by eyewitnesses during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. Their REPORT is of SUPERNATURAL EVENTS which took place as FULFILLMENT of SPECIFIC PROPHECIES and declare that their record is divine in nature and not human in origin.”
Only fair to answer this, myself.
I no longer believe this to be true, and I am no longer a Christian. I do, however, think that the bible very possibly expresses spiritual truths, mixed in with a lot of untruths. That makes it more difficult, in some ways, as you have to give thought to determining what is what. But it also allows one to avoid the cognitive dissonance caused by believing it all to be true.
A God who IS love, and who asks people to forgive others freely, also supposedly demanded bloody sacrifices in order to be able to forgive? The God who said do not murder, and who chastised people for sacrificing their children in the Valley of Hinnom, supposedly asked a man to sacrifice his son to prove his loyalty to God? The God who said love your enemies and do good to them, told his "chosen people" to massacre people in order to take over their land? And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
"The Bible is a RELIABLE COLLECTION of HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS written by eyewitnesses during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. Their REPORT is of SUPERNATURAL EVENTS which took place as FULFILLMENT of SPECIFIC PROPHECIES and declare that their record is divine in nature and not human in origin.”
There are some serious rhetorical problems with your preamble.
I would suggest the following, "The Bible is a collection of historical documents written by eyewitnesses. The documents record the supernatural events that took place fulfilling prophecies given to others. The documents are divinely in nature."
If you add the "not of human origin, then the one has to ask, what is the point of being written by eyewitnesses. If they are the account of eyewitnesses while the events may not be of human origin, the account by definition must be.
Either way I would blow it off just like I blow off movie disclaimers that advise that the movie I am about to see is based upon real events... roll Braveheart.
As a believing Christian, I'm afraid to ask, but OTOH, I have a feeling it would be interesting to see your reaction to this quote:
"The Bible is a RELIABLE COLLECTION of HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS written by eyewitnesses during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. Their REPORT is of SUPERNATURAL EVENTS which took place as FULFILLMENT of SPECIFIC PROPHECIES and declare that their record is divine in nature and not human in origin.”
To me the bible is the "Word of God". This word is the basis of my faith. If there are many parts or aspects of it where I lack understanding, I pray that God will illuminate my mind and give me greater understanding of his plans for his creation and his plans for me personally.
As a believing Christian, I'm afraid to ask, but OTOH, I have a feeling it would be interesting to see your reaction to this quote:
"The Bible is a RELIABLE COLLECTION of HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS written by eyewitnesses during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. Their REPORT is of SUPERNATURAL EVENTS which took place as FULFILLMENT of SPECIFIC PROPHECIES and declare that their record is divine in nature and not human in origin.”
Let me provide you a new quote for future use:
"The bible is an imperfect work written by imperfect men who where inspired by a higher power, this higher power was not always the good one which exists but at times the authors of scripture where manipulated by the devil. For this reason it is unwise to treat it as perfect, there are many grievous evils depicted within it's pages, but there is some wisdom contained too. It takes discernment to know what is from the good god and what is not."
"The Bible is a RELIABLE COLLECTION of HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS written by eyewitnesses during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. Their REPORT is of SUPERNATURAL EVENTS which took place as FULFILLMENT of SPECIFIC PROPHECIES and declare that their record is divine in nature and not human in origin.”
My reaction is that most of the Americans who believe that can't tell you how sedimentary rocks are formed but they can name at least 10 Duggars.
I don't know about The Bible being, "a RELIABLE COLLECTION of HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS written by eyewitnesses during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. Their REPORT is of SUPERNATURAL EVENTS which took place as FULFILLMENT of SPECIFIC PROPHECIES and declare that their record is divine in nature and not human in origin.”...that is debatable.
BUT!
Since there are many on this board that place great credence in "The Law" as an arbiter of "how things are and should be"...the U.S. Government has determined that it IS "The Word of God" and "the rock on which our Republic rests".
This passed both the Senate and the House and was signed by The President. It is now "THE LAWWWWWWW of the LAAAAAAAND!
Hey!...all you guys and girls that are always posting "The Law" as support for your arguments...make sure you check this out: http://www.city-data.com/forum/28236163-post21.html
Learn it...know it...embrace it!
After all...our government officials SAID SO, and WROTE IT INTO LAW!
As a believing Christian, I'm afraid to ask, but OTOH, I have a feeling it would be interesting to see your reaction to this quote:
"The Bible is a RELIABLE COLLECTION of HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS written by eyewitnesses during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. Their REPORT is of SUPERNATURAL EVENTS which took place as FULFILLMENT of SPECIFIC PROPHECIES and declare that their record is divine in nature and not human in origin.”
It's only true for those that need it or wish it to be true.
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