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Old 01-21-2014, 10:29 PM
 
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Since Adam and Eve were the first persons on Earth and humans came from Africa it stands to reason they were black. If they were made in Gods' image was he black too? Comments?
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Old 01-21-2014, 11:05 PM
 
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Since Adam and Eve were the first persons on Earth and humans came from Africa it stands to reason they were black. If they were made in Gods' image was he black too? Comments?
I think what "made in His image" means is misunderstood. It's late, so unless someone else beats me to it, let's take this up tomorrow.
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Old 01-22-2014, 12:40 AM
 
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Adam and Eve? Africa? You're mixing the Bible with science.

The Bible says that Adam and Eve lived in Eden. Which, the Bible indicates to have been about where Iraq is today: Where Was the Garden of Eden Located? - Answers in Genesis

So no, according to the Bible, Adam and Eve were not African.

But then, the Adam and Eve story is metaphor, not science. Not to be taken literally. It's meant to convey that all men are brothers, created by the same God.

As for God, he is spirit, without skin. So he doesn't have a skin color.

Some interpret "made in the image of God" as meaning that man, like God, also has a spiritual side (a soul). Others interpret it to mean that man, like God, has "intellect, will, and emotion."
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Old 01-22-2014, 09:04 AM
 
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Adam and Eve? Africa? You're mixing the Bible with science.

The Bible says that Adam and Eve lived in Eden. Which, the Bible indicates to have been about where Iraq is today: Where Was the Garden of Eden Located? - Answers in Genesis

So no, according to the Bible, Adam and Eve were not African.

But then, the Adam and Eve story is metaphor, not science. Not to be taken literally. It's meant to convey that all men are brothers, created by the same God.

As for God, he is spirit, without skin. So he doesn't have a skin color.

Some interpret "made in the image of God" as meaning that man, like God, also has a spiritual side (a soul). Others interpret it to mean that man, like God, has "intellect, will, and emotion."
So well said, I needn't comment.
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Old 01-22-2014, 09:07 AM
 
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As for God, he is spirit, without skin. So he doesn't have a skin color.
So when you illustrate him, why is he white?
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Old 01-22-2014, 09:36 AM
 
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Since Adam and Eve were the first persons on Earth and humans came from Africa it stands to reason they were black. If they were made in Gods' image was he black too? Comments?
The Out of Africa Theory is a theory and not some fact that's non-falsifiable. It's the prevailing theory at the time due to good reasons.

The Out of Africa Theory does not mesh all that well with the popular DNA cult profiling of finding out if you have "African" or "white" genes today. Every human would have African gentic markers if humanity originated in Africa now wouldn't they? Assuming there is only one human race as anthropologist today say (they said something much differently along time ago when anthropology was very racist and science was racist--which ought teach a lesson that everything uttered and believed by scientists in any era is not some non-falsifiable truth etched in stone).

The oldest ethnic/ancestral group in continental Africa today (I think they are called the San people) are medium brown hued people. Darker then myself but a lot lighter in hue than many Black-Americans. So, the original or "pure" Africans were not necessarily black as midnight. There is really no "pure" (genetically) human on earth anyways.

There are genes more common to certain regions and continents of the world than others. We label these "black," "Asian," "Jewish," "African," "European" genes and so on.

Man is the image of God due to man's intellect, immortal soul, man's ability to create. Catholic theology of the Middle Ages speaks of God as being a creator and other living forms of life participating in creation by being creators too, but not the First Creator or First Cause which is God. So, in the Middle Ages man's ability to purse scientific interests, to understand how a physically orderly world bound by physical laws works, was one very big example and trait of how man and woman were created in the image of God.

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Old 01-22-2014, 09:39 AM
 
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I doubt it.
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Old 01-22-2014, 09:41 AM
 
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Since Adam and Eve were the first persons on Earth and humans came from Africa it stands to reason they were black.
My guess is that very likely they were, considering the region of the world that they were in.
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If they were made in Gods' image was he black too? Comments?
The idea of being made in his image is not a physical likeness, as we know that God does not have a physical body of flesh and bones. God is Spirit (John 4:24), so is not physical in nature (Luke 24:39).

The phrase simply means that we have some of the attributes of God, such as the ability to think, love, and hate. We can show compassion, mercy, grace, have fellowship, etc.
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Old 01-22-2014, 09:44 AM
 
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So when you illustrate him, why is he white?
You've evidently never seen the Filipinos honoring the black Christ or the Black Madonna's venerated by Catholic Europeans, nor the artistic images in Catholicism (and Catholic mysticism) of God symbolically represented, chromatically through the colors white and black.

Catholic mystics have for a long time understood God through the black, the night, the "negation," the unknowing, the sorrow, the road to being lost and feeling utterly alone. The black.

And colors are used throughout the Catholic liturgical season representing different things. Red evidently, usually, means or represents blood or martyrdom. Actually, Catholic priests typically are uniformed in all black with a white Roman collar. All the colors mean something. But needless to say... the black attire of the Catholic parish priest is symbolically associated with God through his priestly office.
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Old 01-22-2014, 09:51 AM
 
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My guess is that very likely they were, considering the region of the world that they were in.
It makes perfect sense.

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The idea of being made in his image is not a physical likeness, as we know that God does not have a physical body of flesh and bones. God is Spirit (John 4:24), so is not physical in nature (Luke 24:39).

The phrase simply means that we have some of the attributes of God, such as the ability to think, love, and hate. We can show compassion, mercy, grace, have fellowship, etc.
Exactly. I'm not sure where the view emanates from that God is physically human. Anyone know the source?
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