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Old 01-22-2015, 05:36 PM
 
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Viz is sticking to his childish schtick:

God can do whatever he wants because he made us and we have no right to judge him.

Stampsies! No rub outs!*



*Maybe you had to be a kid in the late 50s....
I have yet to see anyone that can give me a reasonable answer to my argument. God decides what is moral and immoral, as he created the universe. In the same way, the clay cannot complain to the potter in regards to what he did with it.
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Old 01-22-2015, 05:59 PM
 
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I have yet to see anyone that can give me a reasonable answer to my argument. God decides what is moral and immoral, as he created the universe. In the same way, the clay cannot complain to the potter in regards to what he did with it.
It's because your definition of "reasonable" differs from that of everyone else.
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:06 PM
 
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It's because your definition of "reasonable" differs from that of everyone else.
No...there are people that agree with me. But the usual few characters of you and a few others don't. And you tend to be the noisiest ones.
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:16 PM
 
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Collateral damage: A-OK to the Christian fundamentalists if they are innocent kids killed by God. A-OK to the Muslim fundamentalists if those kids are killed by someone yelling God is great in Arabic.

Fundamentalism is not healthy for children and other living things.
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:19 PM
 
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Collateral damage: A-OK to the Christian fundamentalists if they are innocent kids killed by God.
It's called war. It's bad. It's horrible. Bad things happen.
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A-OK to the Muslim fundamentalists if those kids are killed by someone yelling God is great in Arabic.
What war is the jihadist terrorist in?
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Religion is not healthy for children and other living things.
Neither is absence of religion. Moderator cut: We will not debate abortion in the Religion forums. Take it to Politics & Other Controversies.

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Old 01-22-2015, 06:24 PM
 
Location: USA
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Viz is sticking to his childish schtick:
God can do whatever he wants because he made us and we have no right to judge him.
If only it were just a childish shtick. I was specifically taught that God could do no wrong, simply because he was God and we had no right to judge his actions as immoral. God was essentially a dictator. If you questioned him, you went to the gulags (aka hell).

Vizio, are you in the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod?
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:26 PM
 
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It's called war. It's bad. It's horrible. Bad things happen.
What do you know about war? Have you been in combat?

You're the guy who thinks he can talk about war because he's anxious to justify the God of the Old Testament. Fundamentalism is full of people who think the same way. In the 60's this country was full of Christian fundamentalist hawks who called dead Vietnamese kids "collateral damage" because they thought God was on the side of America.

Fundamentalism is not healthy for children and other living things.
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:26 PM
 
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If only it were just a childish shtick. I was specifically taught that God could do no wrong, simply because he was God and we had no right to judge his actions as immoral. God was essentially a dictator. If you questioned him, you went to the gulags (aka hell).

Vizio, are you in the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod?
No...I'm not a Lutheran. But they are correct in regards to God's sovereignty. He made us. He gets to decide right and wrong. Again...just as a potter gets to decide the clay's fate. (Romans 9).
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:28 PM
 
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What is your frame of reference to declare him monstrous? What qualifies you to make a moral statement regarding him?
Not too surprising that you would say that, given that you said all those babies were "collateral damage."
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:30 PM
 
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No...I'm not a Lutheran. But they are correct in regards to God's sovereignty. He made us. He gets to decide right and wrong. Again...just as a potter gets to decide the clay's fate. (Romans 9).
So we see why people like you hate the theory of evolution. Goddidit, so he can be an ---hole. Yeah, makes perfect sense.
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