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Old 12-12-2019, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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He was and still is the eternal energy, which cannot be created nor every be destroyed, He is the only eternal,, having neither beginning or end, and over the aeons of eternity, he had evolved to become a being, which manifests itself as a universal body in which a Supreme Personality developes, 'THE MOST HIGH' in the creation, which creation is the eternal energy made manifest/visible.

Each universal being who came after his final stage of His evolution, when He became who HE is, were created by Him and each supreme personality that developed within each universal body, which all occupy their own individual positions in space Time, are the Sons of God.

He is ONE. He is mind, He is the collective consciousness all that exists, all of which He has become. He is today as he was yesterday and will be into all eternity, He is the only constant, in that he is constantly evolving.

A mind that ceases to evolve, is a mind that has ceased to exist.

It is the Supreme Personality, the MOST HIGH to have developed within this universal body, to who we bend the knee.
You make up a good story.
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Old 12-12-2019, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Townsville QLD Australia.
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You make up a good story.
We know that the first law of thermodynamics is the same as the first law of conservation and that is, that energy can neither be created or destroyed.

Do you know of anything else that can never be created, in other words, "WITHOUT BEGINNING' and can never be destroyed, 'WITHOUT END?'
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Old 12-12-2019, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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We know that the first law of thermodynamics is the same as the first law of conservation and that is, that energy can neither be created or destroyed.

Do you know of anything else that can never be created, in other words, "WITHOUT BEGINNING' and can never be destroyed, 'WITHOUT END?'
I think if you want to discuss science, you ought to take the discussion to the science forum.
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Old 12-12-2019, 05:48 PM
 
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We know that the first law of thermodynamics is the same as the first law of conservation and that is, that energy can neither be created or destroyed.

Do you know of anything else that can never be created, in other words, "WITHOUT BEGINNING' and can never be destroyed, 'WITHOUT END?'
that is based on our location. Yeah, we have uniformitarianism, but once we start saying "it was created by something" we need to be clear.

and, even if the universe never had a starting point or an ending point, it doesn't mean some dude stirred a pot with his finger and "poof" we are here.

You didn't give a mechanism so your claim is just an unsupported claim.

Hint: use what science shows us to describe how your god did it ... just saying.

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Old 12-12-2019, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Townsville QLD Australia.
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I think if you want to discuss science, you ought to take the discussion to the science forum.
How can one discuss science without bringing God into the equation, or vis-à-vis? How can we Know the origin of all that exists?
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Old 12-12-2019, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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How can one discuss science without bringing God into the equation, or vis-à-vis? How can we Know the origin of all that exists?
I did it for 5 years in college. Another 13 years teaching science.

Religionists who try to steal science to prove their religious beliefs are quacks. And look how it turned out for those who tried to do so with the shroud of Turin.
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Old 12-12-2019, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Townsville QLD Australia.
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that is based on our location. Yeah, we have uniformitarianism, but once we start saying "it was created by something" we need to be clear.

and, even if the universe never had a starting point or an ending point, it doesn't mean some dude stirred a pot with his finger and "poof" we are here.

You didn't give a mechanism so your claim is just an unsupported claim.

Hint: use what science shows us to describe how your god did it ... just saying.
According to the BB theory, which is accepted as the best model as to the creation of this particular universe
it was some 14 Billion years ago, that some supposed infinitely dense, infinitely hot, infinitesimally small singularity, (Which I believe was a WHITE HOLE at the end of an Einstein Rosen Bridge) which supposed singularity was spatially separated and spewed out electromagnetic energy in the trillions upon trillions of degrees, and it was this energy that cannot be created or destroyed, which has formed into this particular universe, and all that exists.

We know that the space station and all it's complex and intricate ground support systems evolved from the wheel.

But if was after billions of creations by the creator of the wheel, with each creation being the expression of the heights to which the mind of the creator of the wheel had evolved, at that point in time, that when the creator of the wheel had gained the technology, material, and builders, he could at last say, "And now let us create the Space station.

of course it takes no where near that time frame for the creator of the wheel to create another space station.
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Old 12-13-2019, 03:27 AM
 
Location: Germany
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We know that the first law of thermodynamics is the same as the first law of conservation and that is, that energy can neither be created or destroyed.

Do you know of anything else that can never be created, in other words, "WITHOUT BEGINNING' and can never be destroyed, 'WITHOUT END?'
Yes. Whatever you believe in, but without it being an imaginary and improbable conscious being.
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Old 12-13-2019, 04:40 AM
 
Location: Townsville QLD Australia.
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Yes. Whatever you believe in, but without it being an imaginary and improbable conscious being.
Yes, whatever you believe in. But what 'DO' you believe in?

Of the many scientific hypotheses as to the creation of this particular universe, and the many universes that our scientists believe may exist in their own positions in space time, is the one that you put you faith in.

Because none of those scientific Hypotheses have been proven, it is by faith and faith alone that you must accept the Hypotheses of your choice.

So I repeat, what scientific hypotheses of the creation of this universe do you, by faith, accept?

I await in anticipation your answer.
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Old 12-13-2019, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Yes, whatever you believe in. But what 'DO' you believe in?

Of the many scientific hypotheses as to the creation of this particular universe, and the many universes that our scientists believe may exist in their own positions in space time, is the one that you put you faith in.

Because none of those scientific Hypotheses have been proven, it is by faith and faith alone that you must accept the Hypotheses of your choice.

So I repeat, what scientific hypotheses of the creation of this universe do you, by faith, accept?

I await in anticipation your answer.
Do you not understand that there is a difference between 'faith' and an opinion on what one thinks is 'most likely' based on current knowledge?
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