Wonder why Christians are looked down upon? Just read the Christian responses in these 2 threads. (zealous, Catholics)
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Incidentally, cupper, since you now seem to have become the unofficial poster-boy for rape victims you might be interested in the Tyler Kost case. Kost (18) was accused of rape and sexual assault against a dozen or so separate girls and was sentenced to prison. Since then (thanks to Facebook and the loose chatter of those who participate in social media) it would appear that Kost was set-up by the alleged victims 'to teach him a lesson'. I have no idea at this time of the outcome of the investigation that these fresh revelations prompted; however, it would appear that all little girls are not necessarily 'made of sugar and spice and all things nice' after all.
Although anyone, including myself, would emphasis with someone wrongly accused, or worse, wrongly convicted, it appears no trial has yet occurred, has it? Let's wait for that.
Why are you so enamored with rapists and accused rapists?
YOU are the one enamored with rape and rapists. How many threads is it now ...four??
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Is there something in your past you want to tell us about?
No. But I'm beginning to think there is in yours! Thou protesteth too much, Cupper! Something is clearly bothering you. NO ONE has such a fixation on rape as you do unless there's some reason behind it. FOUR THREADS! Is there anything from YOUR past that you want to tell us about?
Cupper, by now you will know that I'm not some mindless drone. Don't talk down to me. It won't work. I realize that because you can't 'one-up' me with intelligent reasoning your only recourse is to try and besmirch my character by implying that I'm guilty of some impropriety. It's a cheap shot but expected.
You've no idea how hard it is for me to remain nice and simply say ...don't do that, okay?
Incidentally, Cupper, since you now seem to have become the unofficial poster-boy for rape victims you might be interested in the Tyler Kost case. Kost (18) was accused of rape and sexual assault against a dozen or so separate girls and was sentenced to prison. Since then (thanks to Facebook and the loose chatter of those who participate in social media) it would appear that Kost was set-up by the alleged victims 'to teach him a lesson'. I have no idea at this time of the outcome of the investigation that these fresh revelations prompted; however, it would appear that all little girls are not necessarily 'made of sugar and spice and all things nice' after all.
I am disgusted by posts like this. Are you saying some girls deserve rape. Why are you defending rapists?
*sigh*
I usually try to make a point of responding to all posts. And, to THIS poster I say, have you ANY IDEA what you're talking about . . .??? Where did I even HINT that girls deserve rape??????
Honestly, this thread is getting from bad to worse. Or, maybe it's that bad mushroom I ate a few weeks ago and had to be rushed to the hospital. Maybe this is all a mushroom hallucination and not really happening. Whatever, it might soon be a case of calling the Enterprise and instructing Scotty to beam me up ...there really IS no intelligent life here!
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Many of you are misreading/misunderstanding Rom's take on this.
I'm not surprised that cupper has, but a couple of you others need to re-read with your rationality hat on.
What's there to misread? Romulus consistently uses the FUD factor to suggest that the rape victim should perhaps not get the expression of concern that she does. Then goes on to post about an accused who has not been to trial yet, and Romulus already has made up his mind that he is innocent.
I have outlined before the horrors my daughter has relayed working with at risk girls, girls who have been forced to work the street as early as 13. I feel so sorry for the victims, the girls, and cannot understand why there are people defending the perpetrators.
What I have not revealed before was I sat on a rape trial jury. As many can guess, my attitude is lock 'em up and throw away the key. It requires a unanimous decision either way to find someone guilty or not guilty in my jurisdiction. After 3 days of deliberation, we found the accused innocent.
I am not opposed to facts, in fact, virtually always back up my threads with real links that are credible. If some can't live with that, too bad. I will never stop railing against the blame the victim in rape and sexual assault cases attitudes one sees way too much on here and in society. Don't blame the messenger, me, but blame those that commit these crimes, and those who excuse them.
Update, 10/16: Convicted sex offender Thomas Hopper could be headed right back to prison.
Hopper was in court Monday, accused of three counts of criminal trespassing, one count of stalking and one count of resisting arrest.
Prosecutors accused Hopper of stalking a Mater Dei high school student, and following her home from school.
The judge set December fourth as the trial date. The outcome could convince a parole board to send Hopper back to prison.
Hopper remains behind bars at this time. Update on Convicted Sex Offender Thomas Hopper - Tri-State News, Weather & Sports
I'll accept that may be the case, however, the citation provided in the Wikipedia article does not mention atheism at all. This article from the Virginia Commonwealth University is more in-depth, and although again does not mention that he claimed to be an atheist, certainly he moved away from his Pentecostal roots, and transformed himself as the second coming of Christ.
"The belief system of Peoples Temple combined a number of different religious and social ideas, including Pentecostalism, the Christian Social Gospel, socialism, communism, and utopianism. The charisma of Jim Jones and the idealism of Temple members who believed that their vision would create a better world held together this eclectic mix of beliefs and practices. Hall calls Peoples Temple an “apocalyptic sect,” which expected the imminent end of the capitalistic world (Hall 1987:40). Wessinger classifies Peoples Temple as a catastrophic millennial group, characterized by a radical dualism that pitted the “Babylon” of the United States against the New Eden of Jonestown (Wessinger 2000:39). All of these views describe the Temple in part."
Was he an athiest? Maybe, and maybe not. If you have a better link, that would be great. I could not find one.
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Mussolini declared himself to be an atheist and said that Bible stories were for idiots.
Yes he did, and then converted to Catholicism in 1927. He was married in the church, and his children baptized.
From your link:
"On 11 February 1929, he signed a concordat and treaty with the Roman Catholic Church.[173] Under the Lateran Pact, Vatican City was granted independent statehood and placed under Church law—rather than Italian law—and the Catholic religion was recognized as Italy's state religion.[174] The Church also regained authority over marriage, Catholicism could be taught in all secondary schools, birth control and freemasonry were banned, and the clergy received subsidies from the state, and was exempted from taxation.[175][176] Pope Pius XI praised Mussolini, and the official Catholic newspaper pronounced "Italy has been given back to God and God to Italy."[174]"
I reserve judgement on Jim Jones, but Mussolini clearly was a christian. You DO believe that people convert, right? You know, like convicted rapists?
I'll accept that may be the case, however, the citation provided in the Wikipedia article does not mention atheism at all. This article from the Virginia Commonwealth University is more in-depth, and although again does not mention that he claimed to be an atheist, certainly he moved away from his Pentecostal roots, and transformed himself as the second coming of Christ.
"The belief system of Peoples Temple combined a number of different religious and social ideas, including Pentecostalism, the Christian Social Gospel, socialism, communism, and utopianism. The charisma of Jim Jones and the idealism of Temple members who believed that their vision would create a better world held together this eclectic mix of beliefs and practices. Hall calls Peoples Temple an “apocalyptic sect,” which expected the imminent end of the capitalistic world (Hall 1987:40). Wessinger classifies Peoples Temple as a catastrophic millennial group, characterized by a radical dualism that pitted the “Babylon” of the United States against the New Eden of Jonestown (Wessinger 2000:39). All of these views describe the Temple in part."
Was he an athiest? Maybe, and maybe not. If you have a better link, that would be great. I could not find one.
He sure wasn't a Christian!
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Yes he did, and then converted to Catholicism in 1927. He was married in the church, and his children baptized.
From your link:
"On 11 February 1929, he signed a concordat and treaty with the Roman Catholic Church.[173] Under the Lateran Pact, Vatican City was granted independent statehood and placed under Church law—rather than Italian law—and the Catholic religion was recognized as Italy's state religion.[174] The Church also regained authority over marriage, Catholicism could be taught in all secondary schools, birth control and freemasonry were banned, and the clergy received subsidies from the state, and was exempted from taxation.[175][176] Pope Pius XI praised Mussolini, and the official Catholic newspaper pronounced "Italy has been given back to God and God to Italy."[174]"
I reserve judgement on Jim Jones, but Mussolini clearly was a christian. You DO believe that people convert, right? You know, like convicted rapists?
He was Catholic. There is no evidence that he actually cared what Christianity teaches. There is a difference. I've known devout Catholics that I have no doubt about them being in Heaven right now...but Mussolini demonstrated that he was not a Christian by his actions.
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