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Old 09-02-2016, 07:44 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Those christians just do not want to learn.

They want to be special snowflakes, and think that they should have more rights than others. Why? The defender of the 1st Amendment, the FFRF, had to write TWO letter before the school district got the message. Recalcitrant officials thought that if they ignore the Atheist group, they would go away. Uh uh. Ain't gonna happen. And finally, the FFRF got the assurance that they wanted from the school districts lawyers:

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/...-in-california

Here’s a short list of what FFRF discovered through open records requests and a concerned parent:
  • “The club was mentioned in the weekly newsletter,” where students were told to “Stop by the office to sign up.” No other club received that treatment.
  • The club’s meetings were listed in the school calendar. Other clubs were not.
  • When the Principal told parents at a back-to-school night about the various clubs at the school, she spent extra time telling everyone how amazing the Christian club was and how students should join it.
  • The club began meeting a mere five minutes after the end of the school day, a perk not reserved for other groups.
  • School officials gave out Club Monarch registration forms and helped coordinate collection of those forms.
  • School officials planned club meetings using their school email addresses, even though they should have no such role with the group.
  • The Superintendent spoke at a club meeting in February, “sharing… the heart of Jesus with the children.”
  • Oh. And club organizers didn’t have the proper insurance certificate for renting the school facility, either.
  • After sending the District a letter back in March, FFRF sent another letter in May documenting these problems.

Here is the first letter, sent in March, to the school district:

https://ffrf.org/images/BreaOlindaUnified.pdf

And the second, as the first was pretty well ignored:

https://ffrf.org/images/BreaOlindaUnified2.pdf

And finally, the Good News, a positive response from the school district:

https://ffrf.org/images/BreaOlindaUnifiedRESPONSE.pdf

Isn't it great that there is a group that rigorously defends the 1st Amendment? Sort of like the NRA defends the Second one?
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Old 09-02-2016, 08:35 PM
 
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The FFRF is only dedicated to destroying Christianity in America. Funny that they never go after other religions.
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Old 09-02-2016, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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The FFRF is only dedicated to destroying Christianity in America. Funny that they never go after other religions.
Other religions aren't being arsehats in America - just Christian fundies.
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Old 09-02-2016, 08:58 PM
 
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Busybodies doing what busybodies do. Bullying people into thinking they're doing wron when no law was broken.
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Old 09-02-2016, 10:20 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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The FFRF is only dedicated to destroying Christianity in America. Funny that they never go after other religions.
Jeff, I already showed you that the FFRF goes after any 1st Amendment issue that arises. I have shown you go after Muslims for that. Do you not remember? Or is this something you have so ingrained in your mind that you won't remember? Do you need the link again or did I jog your memory?
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Old 09-02-2016, 10:26 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Busybodies doing what busybodies do. Bullying people into thinking they're doing wron when no law was broken.
So non-equal treatment is now legal? Really Vizio?

Do you think that the schoolboard's lawyers would have advised the board to cease and desist if the board was legally correct?

The reality is that you just don't like that an organization such as the FFRF continually point out the special privileges that have existed for christians for most of the USA existent and ones they have taken for granted are now being eroded.

Tough. That's what the 1st Amendment is all about. You should be happy that there is an organization that supports it.
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Old 09-02-2016, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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You were right cupper....They do think they are special snowflakes....
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Old 09-03-2016, 02:43 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Isn't it great that there is a group that rigorously defends the 1st Amendment?
Yeah for the FFRF.

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Sort of like the NRA defends the Second one?
Unfortunately!

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The FFRF is only dedicated to destroying Christianity in America.
...and the quicker the better. There is no place for idiotic superstitious beliefs in 2016.
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Old 09-03-2016, 02:47 AM
 
Location: US
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Those christians just do not want to learn.

They want to be special snowflakes, and think that they should have more rights than others. Why? The defender of the 1st Amendment, the FFRF, had to write TWO letter before the school district got the message. Recalcitrant officials thought that if they ignore the Atheist group, they would go away. Uh uh. Ain't gonna happen. And finally, the FFRF got the assurance that they wanted from the school districts lawyers:

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/...-in-california

Here’s a short list of what FFRF discovered through open records requests and a concerned parent:
  • “The club was mentioned in the weekly newsletter,” where students were told to “Stop by the office to sign up.” No other club received that treatment.
  • The club’s meetings were listed in the school calendar. Other clubs were not.
  • When the Principal told parents at a back-to-school night about the various clubs at the school, she spent extra time telling everyone how amazing the Christian club was and how students should join it.
  • The club began meeting a mere five minutes after the end of the school day, a perk not reserved for other groups.
  • School officials gave out Club Monarch registration forms and helped coordinate collection of those forms.
  • School officials planned club meetings using their school email addresses, even though they should have no such role with the group.
  • The Superintendent spoke at a club meeting in February, “sharing… the heart of Jesus with the children.”
  • Oh. And club organizers didn’t have the proper insurance certificate for renting the school facility, either.
  • After sending the District a letter back in March, FFRF sent another letter in May documenting these problems.

Here is the first letter, sent in March, to the school district:

https://ffrf.org/images/BreaOlindaUnified.pdf

And the second, as the first was pretty well ignored:

https://ffrf.org/images/BreaOlindaUnified2.pdf

And finally, the Good News, a positive response from the school district:

https://ffrf.org/images/BreaOlindaUnifiedRESPONSE.pdf

Isn't it great that there is a group that rigorously defends the 1st Amendment? Sort of like the NRA defends the Second one?
Something smells fishy there with the FFRF....
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Old 09-03-2016, 02:50 AM
 
Location: US
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Isn't it great that there is a group that rigorously defends the 1st Amendment? Sort of like the NRA defends the Second one?
Yea, and how good is that doing us?...Our gun owner rights are being infringed more and more on a daily basis...
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