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Old 05-20-2017, 03:41 AM
 
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Science does not promote genocide such as the god you worship did.
1. Auschwitz to Rwanda: the link between science, colonialism and genocide...Heike Becker.

2.Trump Should Ask Denmark’s PM Why His Government Is Promoting Genocide... Georgi Boorman.

3. The Science of Genocide... Chris Hedges.

God did not promote genocide. There were giants living in the land, and they were sacrificing their own children in hopes of their continued hedgemony. God is righteous for using Israel to destroy the destroyers.
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Old 05-20-2017, 06:57 AM
 
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1. Auschwitz to Rwanda: the link between science, colonialism and genocide...Heike Becker.

2.Trump Should Ask Denmark’s PM Why His Government Is Promoting Genocide... Georgi Boorman.

3. The Science of Genocide... Chris Hedges.

God did not promote genocide. There were giants living in the land, and they were sacrificing their own children in hopes of their continued hedgemony. God is righteous for using Israel to destroy the destroyers.
yeah, I have to agree with you here. What power group killed more people than any other group? Also, If we count deaths, we have to count helping too. Its only fair.

I still say omni dude god types are not real, so when I evaluate a human activity, god claims (no god or god) never enter into the evaluation. I look solely at the group's actions.

family members and friends harm far more innocent little children than any other single group of people. Then the abused grow up with a broken human experience, they can't blame family, so blame something about them that must of made them do it to them. pronoun confusion

Remember, I separate "god claims", from group or individual actions.


'the universe picking israel" is just silliness. I would expect to hear that in a high school cafeteria.

religion is a weapon sometimes. You should try and help it not be.
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Old 05-20-2017, 07:04 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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I was was going to reply to littlewitz, Arach, but that will do.

Genocide is a human trait (regrettably) and nobody can claim they either didn't or couldn't do it. And religion merely provides a justification "Those people have evil customs, so it was good and right that we wiped them out".
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Old 05-20-2017, 09:47 AM
 
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I was was going to reply to littlewitz, Arach, but that will do.

Genocide is a human trait (regrettably) and nobody can claim they either didn't or couldn't do it. And religion merely provides a justification "Those people have evil customs, so it was good and right that we wiped them out".
to dismiss the reasonable statement i made would just expose you ... again.

yeah, like lennon, castro, and others literal atheist religion leaders did? yuppers, your religion's people did a good job too.


when the killing starts, we will probably be on opposite sides. trying to stop "blind activism" that are not based on reality will cause needless deaths. You might even win, but it doesn't change how the universe works.
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Old 05-20-2017, 11:21 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Keep going you sound more like Gldnrule all the time.
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Old 05-20-2017, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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1. Auschwitz to Rwanda: the link between science, colonialism and genocide...Heike Becker.

2.Trump Should Ask Denmark’s PM Why His Government Is Promoting Genocide... Georgi Boorman.

3. The Science of Genocide... Chris Hedges.
What's lacking here is your understanding of what science actually is. Humans not Science carried out genocide. You remind me of the folks who say guns kill. A gun has no conscious ability to make a decision to kill anyone. Same with science, it is not a conscious living entity...it's simply a systematic method of studying the nature of the Universe and discovering the scientific laws that govern it.

Humans are responsible for acts of genocide...not a non-conscious method.

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God did not promote genocide. There were giants living in the land, and they were sacrificing their own children in hopes of their continued hedgemony. God is righteous for using Israel to destroy the destroyers.
Just like most religious fundamentalists, they have no knowledge about the god they worship. They have no knoweldge of the stories written in their "holy" text describing this murderous, genocidal, evil wicked god.
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Old 05-20-2017, 11:40 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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1. Auschwitz to Rwanda: the link between science, colonialism and genocide...Heike Becker.

2.Trump Should Ask Denmark’s PM Why His Government Is Promoting Genocide... Georgi Boorman.

3. The Science of Genocide... Chris Hedges.

God did not promote genocide. There were giants living in the land, and they were sacrificing their own children in hopes of their continued hedgemony. God is righteous for using Israel to destroy the destroyers.
What do you call drowning every living human being except for 8? In what way is that not genocide?

If there were "giants" living in the land, where did they come from? Did God create them? If yes, then how is he righteous to destroy them? If their giantness is a problem in some way, the fault is God's.
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Old 05-20-2017, 01:39 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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What do you call drowning every living human being except for 8? In what way is that not genocide?

If there were "giants" living in the land, where did they come from? Did God create them? If yes, then how is he righteous to destroy them? If their giantness is a problem in some way, the fault is God's.
Agreed. If they had gone wrong, then God could put them right. He supposedly gave a people a whole book putting them right. If they won't listen, he should make them. Plagues and afflictions are easy enough. The fact is that giving up on a people and just having them destroyed is no story for the modern age. Modern man may not be angels, but we are better than that.
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Old 05-20-2017, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Hamburg, Deutschland
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Remember, there are no consequences. There is no fundamental justice. Maybe justice is decreasing the population. What a terrible existence and you are all unwittingly contributing to your own demise.

No accountability. What a terrible world that lies ahead.

But to be an atheist, is freedom. No consequences. No justice.
Yeah, guess what, I like my freedom. And I am not going to feel ashamed because of it. A few months from now I am planning to spend several hundred dollars on attending an opera festival, just to hear my beloved Richard Wagner. And I am not going to feel guilty for spending it on my own selfish aesthetic pleasure instead of giving it to charity or to some missionary organization for spreading the gospel. Whereas back in my Christian days I would be all torn up inside and in tears because of this inner conflict between my own wishes and the "Christian duty". So, yes, for this godless Pagan, freedom is a wonderful thing
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Old 05-20-2017, 04:20 PM
 
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lol norne.

litera religious blame the rich, literal atheists blame the rich, finger pointing bunch a whiners to me.

enjoy that festival. And remember to be as courteous to the helpers as the singers. make us proud.
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