Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
The forum rules do not state he cannot ask me the definition of fullfil
Now quit causing strife. I am confident the rules do address your antics
You told Nate that he didn't have the right to determine what is allowed on this forum and what isn't. I merely said that he was going by the rules. If you believe I am breaking the rules of the forum, causing strike and behaving inappropriately, by all means report me.
Funny, your "authority" names quite a different authority or guide. Why do you put the Bible up instead of THAT guide?
There is a world of difference between believing that the Bible contains truth which the Spirit will reveal AS truth, and believing that the Bible is truth which limits that Spirit by what is said within its pages, setting it up as authority over what Jesus promised.
Funny, your "authority" names quite a different authority or guide. Why do you put the Bible up instead of THAT guide?
There is a world of difference between believing that the Bible contains truth which the Spirit will reveal AS truth, and believing that the Bible is truth which limits that Spirit by what is said within its pages, setting it up as authority over what Jesus promised.
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 10:29-31
29 [a]My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are [b]one.”
31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him.
John 1:1-14
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
Isaiah 48
16 yDraw near to me, hear this:
from the beginning I have not spoken in secret,
from the time it came to be I have been there.”
And now zthe Lord God has sent me, and his Spirit. 17 Thus says the Lord,
your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel: “I am the Lord your God, who teaches you to profit, who leads you in the way you should go. 18 aOh that you had paid attention to my commandments! bThen your peace would have been like a river,
and your righteousness like the waves of the sea;
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 10:29-31
29 [a]My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are [b]one.”
31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him.
John 1:1-14
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
Isaiah 48
16 yDraw near to me, hear this:
from the beginning I have not spoken in secret,
from the time it came to be I have been there.”
And now zthe Lord God has sent me, and his Spirit. 17 Thus says the Lord,
your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel: “I am the Lord your God, who teaches you to profit, who leads you in the way you should go. 18 aOh that you had paid attention to my commandments! bThen your peace would have been like a river,
and your righteousness like the waves of the sea;
It doesn't mean much to anyone who is secular either. Just a wall of words, and those who copy and paste them feel good because they have numbers in from of each sentence.
Funny, your "authority" names quite a different authority or guide. Why do you put the Bible up instead of THAT guide?
There is a world of difference between believing that the Bible contains truth which the Spirit will reveal AS truth, and believing that the Bible is truth which limits that Spirit by what is said within its pages, setting it up as authority over what Jesus promised.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeaniee
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 10:29-31
29 [a]My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are [b]one.”
31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him. John 1:1-14
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
;
You stopped too short in John 1, Jeaniee which is why you think the Word is the Bible. It is NOT! Jesus the Christ IS the Word, period.
John 1:14-17King James Version (KJV)
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
As nate and I and so many others keep pointing our the Bible only CONTAINS inspirations from God that tell us ABOUT the Word - Jesus the Christ. Jesus revealed the true nature of God by His life and death and in detailed descriptions in 1 Cor 13, Galatians 5 and the Sermon on the Mount. If you want to know what is truly from God and Jesus you test the spirit of everything in the Bible against those descriptions of the Holy Spirit of God revealed and unambiguously demonstrated by Jesus. Anything that is NOT compatible with those descriptions is NOT from God or Jesus.
John 5:37-40 Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
37 `And the Father who sent me Himself hath testified concerning me; ye have neither heard His voice at any time, nor His appearance have ye seen;
38 and His word ye have not remaining in you, because whom He sent, Him ye do not believe.
39 `Ye search the Writings, because ye think in them to have life age-during, and these are they that are testifying concerning Me;
40 and ye do not will to come unto Me, that ye may have life;
You search the writings (the Bible) thinking they are the Word of God when they just tell us ABOUT the Word of God - Jesus the Christ and you do not use His descriptions of the Holy Spirit of Agape (Who IS God) to know what is and what is NOT from God and Jesus in the writings. The Comforter, the Holy Spirit, is to be our guide NOT the words "written ink" in the Bible. Those words must be tested against the Comforter.
John 14:26 King James Version (KJV)
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 16:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send Him unto you.
John 2:27 (King James Version)
27But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in Him.
2 Corinthians 3: 2-6 (King James Version)
2Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
3Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
4And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
5Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
When you use the whole Bible as if it is the Word of God instead of Jesus, you are incorporating the OT which is under a veil of ignorance (blind minds). The whole Bible is NOT the Word of God, Jesus IS and you must test everything in there against the "mind of Christ" in the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the truth God has "written in our hearts."
2 Corinthians 3:14-17
But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Last edited by MysticPhD; 10-13-2017 at 09:59 PM..
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
