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Lmao. Oh my! There's some nice young guys two by two hands of blue gonna come help you into a big wagon with pretty red n blue lights. Just hang in there for a few man.
God is LIVING TIME--specifically, LIVING SPACETIME--the literal fabric of the universe. Jesus confirms this when he says, "I am the Beginning and the End", which I interpret to mean "I am [literally] the Beginning--the LIVING PAST--and the End--the LIVING FUTURE. That is who and what I actually AM " Jesus also said, "Before Abraham was, I AM", where Jesus was not only claiming to be the great I AM, but was also claiming that THE PAST STILL EXISTS and that GOD is STILL ALIVE IN THE PAST, and (by implication) ALREADY ALIVE IN THE FUTURE.
Only something inanimate that is already naturally eternal with no beginning (like eternal time) that somehow becomes alive can explain the origin of a living God who is likewise naturally eternal with no beginning.
Likewise, only something inanimate that consists of three inseparable parts that is already naturally eternal with no beginning (like eternal time--the inanimate past, present and future) that somehow becomes alive can explain the origin of a living Trinity--the LIVING PAST (the Father), the LIVING PRESENT (Jehovah/Jesus) and the LIVING FUTURE (the Holy Spirit) who are likewise naturally eternal with no beginning. If Siamese triplets were ever to survive, this would be three inseparable living beings existing within one human body. Likewise, the Trinity are three living beings existing within one body of LIVING SPACETIME.
God is LIVING TIME--specifically, LIVING SPACETIME--the literal fabric of the universe. Jesus confirms this when he says, "I am the Beginning and the End", which I interpret to mean "I am [literally] the Beginning--the LIVING PAST--and the End--the LIVING FUTURE. ....
So the bible actually tells us there was a beginning and will be an end?
Only something inanimate that is already naturally eternal with no beginning (like eternal time) that somehow becomes alive can explain the origin of a living God who is likewise naturally eternal with no beginning.
From the time I was little, I would lie awake at night and wonder, Where did God come from? He must have been "born" somehow. From what?
When I asked my mother, "When was God born?" she said, "God has always existed, so God was never born." (Thanks, Mom. I'll send you my therapist bill.)
He had to come from somewhere/something. Right? So...from where? Or what? And what was "there" before God came into being? Was there just...nothing? And how could anything come from nothing? (In fact, it was the "universe--something from nothing" thread that made me think to ask this question.)
I'm not any mainstream religion but I do believe in God. I'm curious what others of any religion or philosophy believe on this.
I have had the same problem with this question of beginnings my entire life. I was told as a child that the universe is too complex to simply "just exist." It must therefore have been created by an intelligent Being. Well, where did this intelligent Being come from? He just exists! Which answers nothing. And if an intelligent Being can "just exist," why couldn't the universe "just exist?" We can clearly see that the universe DOES EXIST. Because we are a part of it. God on the other hand cannot be seen at all. In fact God has every aspect of being something which has been entirely imagined. So who is there to explain why the universe cannot simply "just exist," but MUST be the result of a creator Being who "just exists?" Does this conform to what can be observed to be true?
From the time I was little, I would lie awake at night and wonder, Where did God come from? He must have been "born" somehow. From what?
When I asked my mother, "When was God born?" she said, "God has always existed, so God was never born." (Thanks, Mom. I'll send you my therapist bill.)
He had to come from somewhere/something. Right? So...from where? Or what? And what was "there" before God came into being? Was there just...nothing? And how could anything come from nothing? (In fact, it was the "universe--something from nothing" thread that made me think to ask this question.)
I'm not any mainstream religion but I do believe in God. I'm curious what others of any religion or philosophy believe on this.
I'm convinced that the origin of all gods are traced back to human imagination.
God is LIVING TIME--specifically, LIVING SPACETIME--the literal fabric of the universe. Jesus confirms this when he says, "I am the Beginning and the End", which I interpret to mean "I am [literally] the Beginning--the LIVING PAST--and the End--the LIVING FUTURE. That is who and what I actually AM " Jesus also said, "Before Abraham was, I AM", where Jesus was not only claiming to be the great I AM, but was also claiming that THE PAST STILL EXISTS and that GOD is STILL ALIVE IN THE PAST, and (by implication) ALREADY ALIVE IN THE FUTURE.
Only something inanimate that is already naturally eternal with no beginning (like eternal time) that somehow becomes alive can explain the origin of a living God who is likewise naturally eternal with no beginning.
Likewise, only something inanimate that consists of three inseparable parts that is already naturally eternal with no beginning (like eternal time--the inanimate past, present and future) that somehow becomes alive can explain the origin of a living Trinity--the LIVING PAST (the Father), the LIVING PRESENT (Jehovah/Jesus) and the LIVING FUTURE (the Holy Spirit) who are likewise naturally eternal with no beginning. If Siamese triplets were ever to survive, this would be three inseparable living beings existing within one human body. Likewise, the Trinity are three living beings existing within one body of LIVING SPACETIME.
Well, yes. Essentially, A Faith claim, the Creator didn't need to come from anywhere, backed up with a lot of vaguely Christian theological ideas (God comes in three-packs, Jesus is actually God) backed up with Biblequotes, shouted in Block Caps as though shouting made it more than claims without substance.
Sure, we all know hat an eternal God who was there all the time is a handy way o guillotine the problem of cosmic origins. Bu he problem for me is that I can't buy the idea of a complex thinking being without any material substance, mark you, that needed no origin. I takes no Faith to say "I really don't know how the cosmos got started" but I don't have enough blinkered faith to believe the eternal god-claim.
THIS is exactly what I talk about...our little pea brains can not
even imagine what it really looks like to sit in a row boat 100 miles from shore and
have a complete picture of the water all around and under you....the weight of it, the depth, of it....the immensity ..try it, you can't.
And it just shows how on earth can you really say you know much of anything with
a brain that can't even imagine 'God'...
Ah, 3rd dimension, dualistic thinking just does not take you very far on the quest of Self-realization or the Absolute.
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