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My second wife was from a family of merchants in Belarus for many generations. They had a policy of never dealing with Jewish people. Why? They were Gentiles.
Jewish peoples have their own laws and customs in their groups. Some of these are not conducive to good relations with other groups. Example. If a Jewish manufacturer has 2 contracts to fulfill, one to a fellow Jew and the other to a Gentile the manufacturer is obligated to fulfill the obligation to the fellow Jew BEFORE the Gentile. This applies under ANY condition and ANY obligation. Including payments of debts.
Would you like to do business with people who thought like that?
There's many more things out there if you dig.
It seems to me that Jewish people bring a lot of the hatred on themselves for whatever reason.
You seem to be an expert of Jewish law. I'd like to learn these laws you refer to. Could you please recommend a book of Jewish laws which lays out these laws as you present them? Thanks.
You seem to be an expert of Jewish law. I'd like to learn these laws you refer to. Could you please recommend a book of Jewish laws which lays out these laws as you present them? Thanks.
No. I'm not an expert on any religious law, Jewish or otherwise. I have however read many books about history in eastern Europe and other places. Some of that material was not approved by Western sensors so I guess I'm guilty of something.
The instance concerning my wifes family was told to me by my wife through her father one night while we were at dinner. I distinctly remember the conversation even though it almost 18 years ago. I have since found other little juicy bits that show me a pattern throughout history of behavior by some Jewish people that often does not endear them to their neighbors.
Really. Look at Israel. It's a terrorist country IMO. They bombed the USS Liberty and it was not a mistake. I've seen videos of Zionists doing things to Palastinians that say nothing else to me.
Are you an expert on Jewish law? If you are then you prove me wrong.
No. I'm not an expert on any religious law, Jewish or otherwise. I have however read many books about history in eastern Europe and other places. Some of that material was not approved by Western sensors so I guess I'm guilty of something.
The instance concerning my wifes family was told to me by my wife through her father one night while we were at dinner. I distinctly remember the conversation even though it almost 18 years ago. I have since found other little juicy bits that show me a pattern throughout history of behavior by some Jewish people that often does not endear them to their neighbors.
Really. Look at Israel. It's a terrorist country IMO. They bombed the USS Liberty and it was not a mistake. I've seen videos of Zionists doing things to Palastinians that say nothing else to me.
Are you an expert on Jewish law? If you are then you prove me wrong.
I never claimed to be an expert on Jewish law. You made a positive claim about the law and I assumed that you wouldn't make such a claim without the ability to substantiate it with actual proof. I see I was wrong and that you are simply parroting what someone passed along as hearsay 18 years ago. That's fine. Thank you for clarifying your position and lack of expertise as you make unsupported claims. It does help when assessing the potential validity of other things you write.
Isn't this more or less what the Protocols spells out?
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Originally Posted by rosends
what "Protocols"? (if I may ask)
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The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is a fabricated booklet written by Mathieu Golovinski, a French-Russian Okhrana operative. It purports to detail the agenda for a Jewish conspiracy to take over the world, including how to control the media, the banks, and the government. The Protocols have been the basis for innumerable anti-Semitic tracts throughout the 20th and 21st centuries, most notably Henry Ford's The International Jew and Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf. The Nazis heavily promoted the booklet to justify oppression of the Jews and the Holocaust.
No. I'm not an expert on any religious law, Jewish or otherwise. I have however read many books about history in eastern Europe and other places. Some of that material was not approved by Western sensors so I guess I'm guilty of something.
The instance concerning my wifes family was told to me by my wife through her father one night while we were at dinner. I distinctly remember the conversation even though it almost 18 years ago. I have since found other little juicy bits that show me a pattern throughout history of behavior by some Jewish people that often does not endear them to their neighbors.
Really. Look at Israel. It's a terrorist country IMO. They bombed the USS Liberty and it was not a mistake. I've seen videos of Zionists doing things to Palastinians that say nothing else to me.
Are you an expert on Jewish law? If you are then you prove me wrong.
Lol, the League of Nations allotted Israel the land between the Nile and the Ephrates and they have given up piece after piece until they have less than 1 percent, and because they wont give all of it back, they are terrorists?
This is why there is so much Anti Semitism, people can't even admit what is and what has been.....
Regarding baptisms for the dead, you are evidently clueless as to how this works.
Ah the old "Call someone clueless and run away without actually rebutting them in any way" move. Nothing to see here then.
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Originally Posted by Katzpur
(we're not supposed to do so for anyone other than our own ancestors, even though some people, unfortunately, disregard this directive)
Ah so I am not clueless after all - given people are doing _exactly_ what I was talking about. There are indeed people of that religion going around performing baptisms on people who are not around to actually protest it.
However in your rush to lash out at me with a one liner that did not actually explain your position - you missed the point of mine. Which is that any claim over - or uninvited ministrations over - people outside your group who never asked for it is _always_ going to generate ire from some people.
Whether it is Catholics changing their own Canon Law to prevent people formally defecting - or Mormons going around performing rituals or minstrations on the deceased who never invited it - or Jews claiming other people to be Jews based on their parentage - this is going to cause ire in some people somewhere.
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Originally Posted by Richard1965
You really don’t know what you are talking about, the maternally passed Jewishness is in the Torah, Halacha is based off of what is written in the Torah...
Well at least you have moved on from misinterpretating the censorship issue. However once again it is _you_ not me who does not know what they are talking about because once again there are Jews and other people who simply do not agree with that position.
You are talking about _one_ position on the matter and then running around acting like it is the de facto correct, or only, position on the matter. A move that only suggests you - and no one else but you - are the one not knowing what you are talking about.
I repeat - since you thing ignoring it makes it not true - Go talk to someone of Karaite Judaism sometime for example. While some have also changed halakhic requirements so that a child of any Jewish parent - regardless of gender - can claim a Jewish identity.
And - more importantly I feel - such a child who does not claim Jewish identity under this reform is considered to have forfeited his/her Jewish identity.
So this need to claim people as Jewish who do not claim it themselves - or who claim it is only and solely maternal in nature - are not the sole and only opinion or approach out there. So let us stop pretending they are. Or - as I said - go talk to some Karaite Judaism followers and tell _them_they do not know what they are talking about. Since you appear to think you know their position better than they know it themselves.
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