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Originally Posted by omega2xx Not true. All I need for proof is what the Bible says. Jesus is real, this I know, for he Bible tells me so
I don't think omega made a typo. That's what is called a Freudian slip. I believe what omega is saying is, "Jesus is real, this I know, for he tells me so."
It was not a typo. It was an inadvertent omission of a word and a letter. I need to do a better job of checking before I post.
No, apart from this post, your English is often not clear. And you check your memory, I am still waiting for any evidence for several questions, not your usual denial.
If I have not answered any of your question it is because I have not seen them. Ask them again and I will answer them or admit I can't.
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You have translated that Greek passage, then? How does your translation prove me wrong?
I don't remember the passage. If I can find it, I will respond.
When i post something i consider truth, you have the opportunity to explain why it is not true. No one has done that yet.
You also have the obligation to provide evidence for extraordinary claims, or we can simply disregard your claims. Nobody has an obligation to explain or prove you to be incorrect, although somebody may take on the challenge from time to time.
You also have the obligation to provide evidence for extraordinary claims, or we can simply disregard your claims. Nobody has an obligation to explain or prove you to be incorrect, although somebody may take on the challenge from time to time.
yeah, we wouldn't want to help people form more rational beliefs ... they might not agree with us if they do.
This is characteristic of a mind that doesn't know what to do with itself except hurl meaningless insults.
Nothing here.
Where's the refute? Omega, in case no one ever informed you, you need some sort of citation or contradictory authority to refute with. Unless you figure "I refute you" is a refute.
This is soooooo pathetic.
Petrified mind due to age, that's the only conclusion I can come to. Omega, it's not your fault. We all get to this point if we live long enough.
What insults have I hurled? If you want to look at some insults look at your post here.
A mind that does not know what to do with itself---nothing here--this is soooo pathetic---petrified mind.
That is the mind set of those who are ignorant of the subject but don;t realize it. They think their biased OPINIONS are evidence and whatever they say is true.
If you want to label something as pathetic, and self serving, start with your insulting behavior.
Take some advice fro Jesus---Get the log out of your own eye before you try to get the splinter out of mine.
You are also wrong about me just saying " refute you." I always give my reasons from a source.
You on the other hand have just insulted me and only offer your OPINION, no citations. You don't even live by your own rules. Maybe if you ever mature, you will least that is not how to do things in an open discussion.
It is amusing but very sad, those who think they are so intelligent, cant participate without becoming insulting.
I haven't seen anything yet but Eusebius' favourite old ploy "If you don't get me to admit that I'm wrong, then I'm right'.
This is of course the basic wrongheadedness of ALL theist apologetics - that their claims are true until proven false. And no proof is accepted no matter how good, because they work on Faith, not evidence. This is why reversal of burden of proof is the real battle that has been going on from the beginning.
I have always considered that the burden of proof IS on Bible skeptics, because i believe that it's true that a book that purports to relate facts and events stands as evidence of the apologetics claim 'If you dismiss that, you must dismiss every other book' has some merit. We can't cherry -pick which books we consider and which we ignore.
That's why I reckon Bible - specifically gospel - analysis is the only thing that really matters in the debate. First cause is actually irrelevant. 'We need religion, true or not' for the good it does' is irrelevant. Appeal to numbers, authority, the supposed evils of atheist dictators are all irrelevant. The only thing that matter is whether we can believe the claim that Jesus rose from the dead. If it is demonstrably a claim without credibility, the validity of Christianity collapses, even if Christianity itself doesn't
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Originally Posted by omega2xx
If I have not answered any of your question it is because I have not seen them. Ask them again and I will answer them or admit I can't.
I don't remember the passage. If I can find it, I will respond.
Let's see if we can't help you out.
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