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The largest aircraft carrier wouldn't be capable of holding two of every species let alone a wooden boat made by a senior citizen over 600 years old. This is obviously mythology and we've gone back and forth on this topic countless times. There are so many things that just don't make any sense that it's actually humorous to picture it. Consider this dilema, if this imaginary flood had actually happened that would mean that all of the animals that are predators would have to have eaten something vegetarian while they went on the boat ride with Noah and crew because their normal diet was just a single pair of species, male and female, who were also on the boat and if they ate them they'd become extinct. Also, when the boat ride was over and all of the animals went home what in the world did they have to eat then? Afterall, there were supposedly only two of each species and it would take quite awhile for the population to increase (by incest and inbreeding). An animal like a lion lives on large animals like the zebra or wildebeest but if the male and female lions got off the boat and ate their normal meal we wouldn't have any zebra or wildebeest would we? And then of course the lions would starve to death. So how can one explain such a predicament? Did God supply each and every pair of species with a magical doggie bag that would last for a few generations without rotting until the animals reached a viable population and could revert back to their normal behavior of being a predator? This is just foolishness. There was no flood, there was no 600 year old boat builder, and the perpetuation of stories such as this one do nothing to contribute to human progress.
Absolutely hilarious! I will post a similar link that will throw light on some of his questions. Check out my link, John, on the previous page. It just won't go away, will it?
The largest aircraft carrier wouldn't be capable of holding two of every species let alone a wooden boat made by a senior citizen over 600 years old. This is obviously mythology and we've gone back and forth on this topic countless times. There are so many things that just don't make any sense that it's actually humorous to picture it. Consider this dilema, if this imaginary flood had actually happened that would mean that all of the animals that are predators would have to have eaten something vegetarian while they went on the boat ride with Noah and crew because their normal diet was just a single pair of species, male and female, who were also on the boat and if they ate them they'd become extinct. Also, when the boat ride was over and all of the animals went home what in the world did they have to eat then? Afterall, there were supposedly only two of each species and it would take quite awhile for the population to increase (by incest and inbreeding). An animal like a lion lives on large animals like the zebra or wildebeest but if the male and female lions got off the boat and ate their normal meal we wouldn't have any zebra or wildebeest would we? And then of course the lions would starve to death. So how can one explain such a predicament? Did God supply each and every pair of species with a magical doggie bag that would last for a few generations without rotting until the animals reached a viable population and could revert back to their normal behavior of being a predator? This is just foolishness. There was no flood, there was no 600 year old boat builder, and the perpetuation of stories such as this one do nothing to contribute to human progress.
Mt, eating animal flesh, by both human and animal came only after the flood. Vegetarianism was the name of the game, prior. (No wonder they lived so long) !
Absolutely hilarious! I will post a similar link that will throw light on some of his questions. Check out my link, John, on the previous page. It just won't go away, will it?
Mt, eating animal flesh, by both human and animal came only after the flood. Vegetarianism was the name of the game, prior. (No wonder they lived so long) !
Mt, eating animal flesh, by both human and animal came only after the flood. Vegetarianism was the name of the game, prior. (No wonder they lived so long) !
Predators have certain physical characteristics such as the size and shape of their teeth and their digestive systems. Are you suggesting that lions in the days of Noah were lovers of tofu, green salads with a sprinkling of vinegar and oil and a variety of diets that included rice and beans? If this were true we would have found fossils of vegetarian animals that reverted to predatory behavior but I don't recall seeing any evidence that would support such a claim. I mean no disrespect but this is complete nonsense.
Plants don't grow fresh fruit everyday. There wouldn't be sufficient harvest to feed all the plant eating animals. Elephants, horses...they require a lot of vegetation per day and there's no way Noah's wooden boat would have provided for that. Starving animals would have been unruly and dangerous and certainly turned on each other in the need to eat especially if their recognized prey was nearby.
Elephants and horses can go months without food, and as i pointed out... it was raining for a long time, so fresh water wasn't an issue...you realize ships traveled for months and had enough supply to make it to where they were going...the slave trade proved that...
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What fresh meat? The 2 animals per species they were saving?
Two of each they were saving in order to continue where they landed, it didn't say that they didn't have others for provisions, in fact it says that they had other provisions... not that they had to have them, God can certainly supply food for His sons and daughters... with Moses it was called Manna.
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A boat made so well? You helped build it? You were there? Boats made hundreds of years later (ie. 15-17th century) and even today require(d) regular maintenance. It wouldn't have been any different back then either.
THere is a description to how God told Noah to build it... I think God knows how to build a boat...
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Everything is not just "that simple". If your answer is always "God this..." and "God that..." well thats not really an argument. Thats basically saying "I don't know, but I won't concede that, so I'll just say it was God's will." Okay. Thats fine. If it makes you happy to think that, thats your issue. I'll interpret you r answers like that as "I don't know" and leave it at that.
Actually it is beyond simple... with God ALL things are possible, and since you don't believe, then nothing is possible outside your ability to comprehend based on the limited understanding you have gained to date...
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The whole story isn't logical and I don't think a magical spell made it all just work out. If thats the case why let all those innocent people die needlessly on the Titanic and any other of the multitude of shipwrecks in history?
Oh... so you think the whole story was written.. now that isn't logical. Do you think they had word processors at that time, do you think it was an easy task to record history?
As to the Titanic.. how do you know who is innocent and who is not?
Scripture records Noah as having a perfect heart towards God, and a man that was Righteous above all.
He was the grandson of Enoch.. One who escaped death, and also perfected.
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No magic saved those people on ships that were several times more advanced equipped with modern navigation systems. Why didn't a divine hand help them?
Again, man's arrogance and self impressed wisdom is foolishness to God... They also claimed that the ship was unsinkable before it ever launched... have you ever heard of Pride coming before a fall. We are hear to learn spiritual truths in a physical world. Death is not the end. It is the penalty of sin, or the blessing of Martyrdom.
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Not buying that it "just worked out so deal with it." No. Sounds to me like someone can't explain it, won't admit it, whose only answer is "God", thats garbage. Give a real answer or don't answer at all.
Your in luck. It's not for sale.
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Sorry, not trying to insult, but your close mindedness to any other possibilities or that maybe it wasn't so cut-and-dry is just frustrating.
Have a nice day.
I love that... My close mindedness... you don't believe in anything beyond your God given 5 senses... and i'm close minded...
You don't have any faith or belief and yet you want proof of supernatural events...Your ears are closed, your eyes are sealed, and you have all the answers you need to get through the day... yet your heart is still hard, your mind still sealed, and there is no joy in the emptiness of day to day living on a planet that you don't understand or a Spiritual realm you have yet to experience.
Wake up sleeper... find the Father that made you. Experience the joy of eternity, and leave the physical constructs to those that would go in circles asking what's it all about.
Surprise, surprise! I'm siding with jackiefrost and MontanaGuy on this one.
I think it's absolutely beyond the limits of absurd to assume that a man who could best be described as a walking mummy heard the voice of a supernatural sky creature telling him to build a boat and carry all the creatures of the Earth because people were bad and needed "cleansing".
If there's any validity to the story at all it's probably that an old man who suffered from Alzheimer's and severe dementia heard voices telling him to build a boat and thus the dawning of people believing in this insanity for thousands of years.
I guess it just goes to show you that this fanciful delusion that still pervades modern day society was probably built off of something rattling around in the head of a dusty old codger who probably forgot the names of all of his children. The irony is that while we could almost forgive the senility of an old man building a slip-shod dinghy to sail the oceans of the world with a few zoo creatures, people otherwise within their right minds have founded a peculiar following to what probably amounted to nothing more than severe dementia and senility.
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