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Old 09-27-2009, 06:24 PM
 
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Even wiki knows that Irreducible Complexity is BS...

Irreducible complexity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is rejected by the scientific community,[2] and intelligent design has been referred to as pseudoscience.[3]

 
Old 09-27-2009, 06:27 PM
 
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Expelled? Are you serious? ROFL

Expelled Exposed: Why Expelled Flunks



YouTube - Exposing Ben Stein's "Expelled"
 
Old 09-27-2009, 06:55 PM
 
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Lies are what supports ID and the "Anti-Religion Scienctific Agenda" BS
 
Old 09-27-2009, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there
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Thumbs down A sad commentary....

YSM, you reprobate, have I ever claimed to know everything? Of course not. I am, however, willing to accept that there are things not yet explained in our universe. You, not so much. Too terrifying for you?

Irrational and dedicated fundy Christians generally cannot accept this, and, from the details in this video, they are only too willing, as they have always been, to purposefully hurt and insult others who do not hold their same cold, arrogant "all-knowing" viewpoint.

YSM refers to Darwin as a reprobate. Let's look that up and see if it fits him in some distorted way.
  1. A morally unprincipled person.
  2. One who is predestined to damnation.
reprobate - Dictionary definition and pronunciation - Yahoo! Education

That's what he deserves for simply observing and postulating something that the insatiable Christian monster could not abide? The stink of their fear pervades! Thank God I turned away early from that damned lot. May they rot in their own hell.

What a purposefully insulting descriptor to apply to someone who simply observed and speculated on some processes outside of the usual tainted viewpoint of holy "We know best, and will sanction you, up to and including death, if you do not agree with us!" types.

I suppose that's how they brow-beat and frighten the less brave or intelligent into going along with their cavalier feeding-frenzy mentality. Apparently they got to old Ben Stein, whose scientific knowledge is zero, obviously. But who cares, as long as he insults the literate, huh?

As to god simply doing what he needed to do, you have finally admitted, here on C-D, for all to see, that you believe it's all done by magic. No other explanation required.

Fine with me. Enjoy that delusion.

I only wish I could turn off the benefits you continue to hijack from science while you snear at those "reprobates", like me, who bring it to you for free (antibiotics, medicine, TV, your computer, your car, everything not found in a cold dank cave you'd be huddled in absent some brave and compassionate, but logical and rational, folks.).

Your "clever" answers to how many species Noah had to have carried is completely insufficient, and your defensive and deflective answers only further the obvious conclusion that you all have absolutely no understanding nor comprehension of a science you still feel somehow "magically'" entitled to attack.

Sorry. No sale. You're all just a bunch of fakers, caught with your intellectual pants down around your ankles. Quite a sight!.


Isn't it truly amazing the mental and intellectual disconnect that the virulently irrational bring to these posts just to defend the indefensible?
 
Old 09-27-2009, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The sad thing about the Ben Stein garbage is that there are people who'll believe it.
 
Old 09-27-2009, 07:31 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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The giver of all things pasta requirs no ears, silly, as He knows all and sees all.
R-amen!
 
Old 09-27-2009, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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He had as many as he needed. The Bible doesn't give a number.

I'm still waiting on my answer as to who made that "mysterious substance" everything was suppose have popped out from?
It has been answered several times....You know, those words that you religious choke on...We do not know.

Regarding Ben Stein's intelligence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiNGK3y5Ypg
 
Old 09-27-2009, 09:10 PM
 
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YSM refers to Darwin as a reprobate. Let's look that up and see if it fits him in some distorted way.
  1. A morally unprincipled person.
  2. One who is predestined to damnation.
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The Biblical Greek word adokimos, translated reprobate means not accepted [by God], and a reject in the end, at the judgment day. It is translated as AVreprobate 6, castaway 1, rejected 1 Thayer's Lexicon (Help)


Darwin studied Theology [supposedly; at least he got a BA in "Theology, whether he studied, or not], which means God's Word. He is a reprobate as to being a theologian of the Word of God.

God gives men over [who reject Him] to a reprobate mind:



Rom 1:28-32 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

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Old 09-27-2009, 09:22 PM
 
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I only wish I could turn off the benefits you continue to hijack from science while you snear at those "reprobates", like me, who bring it to you for free (antibiotics, medicine, TV, your computer, your car, everything not found in a cold dank cave you'd be huddled in absent some brave and compassionate, but logical and rational, folks.)...
I am not clever. God gave us answers, and I pasted from the Book of the Upright [Jasher] the answers as to how the kinds were brought on board the Ark.
But as to your statement left, above, you err, not knowing world history.
As to antibiotics, Noah wrote them down for his sons, before the dark age caused by the fall of the tower of Babel.
The ancient Egyptians and ancient Chinese and other ancient civilizations had the remedies for diseases, which remedies became lost as civilizations were toppled, and rediscovered as dark ages were ended, over and over again in history.
The Book of Jubilees [every 50th year is a Jubilee year, by God's creation calendar], and the Book of Jubilees tells that Noah wrote down the remedies [given by angels], for his sons for the physical afflictions the evil spirits were allowed to afflict Adamkind with, after the flood:



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Noah's Sons led astray by Evil Spirits; Noah's Prayer; Mastêmâ; Death of Noah (x. 1-17; cf. Gen. ix. 28).

X. And in the third week of this jubilee the unclean demons began to lead astray †the children of† the sons of Noah; and to make to err and destroy them. 2. And the sons of Noah came to Noah their father, and they told him concerning the demons which were, leading astray and blinding and slaying his sons' sons. 3. And he prayed before the Lord his God, and said:
God of the spirits of all flesh, 4 who hast shown mercy unto me,
And hast saved me and my sons from the waters of the flood,
And hast not caused me to perish as Thou didst the sons of perdition; 5
For Thy grace hath been great towards me,
And great hath been Thy mercy to my soul;
Let Thy grace be lift up upon my sons,
And let not wicked spirits rule over them
Lest they should destroy them from the earth.
[paragraph continues] But do Thou bless me and my sons, that we may increase and multiply and replenish the earth. And Thou knowest how Thy Watchers, the fathers of these spirits, acted in my day: and as for these spirits which are living, imprison them and hold them fast in the place of condemnation, and let them not bring destruction on the sons of thy servant, my God; for these are malignant, and created in





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order to destroy. 6. And let them not rule over the spirits of the living; for Thou alone canst exercise dominion over them. And let them not have power over the sons of the righteous from henceforth and for evermore." 7. And the Lord our God bade us to bind all.


8. And the chief of the spirits, Mastêmâ, came and said: "Lord, Creator, let some of them remain before me, and let them hearken to my voice, and do all that I shall say unto them; for if some of them are not left to me, I shall not be able to execute the power of my will on the sons of men; for these are for corruption and leading astray before my judgment, for great is the wickedness of the sons of men." 9. And He said: "Let the tenth part of them remain before him, and let nine parts descend into the place of condemnation."



10. And one of us He commanded that we should teach Noah all their medicines; for He knew that they would not walk in uprightness, nor strive in righteousness. 11. And we did according to all His words: all the malignant evil ones we bound in the place of condemnation, and a tenth part of them we left that they might be subject before Satan on the earth.



12. And we explained to Noah all the medicines of their diseases, together with their seductions, how he might heal them with herbs of the earth. 13. And Noah wrote down all things in a book as we instructed him concerning every kind of medicine. Thus the evil spirits were precluded from (hurting) the sons of Noah.



14. And he gave all that he had written to Shem, his eldest son; for he loved him exceedingly above all his sons. 15. And Noah slept with his fathers, and was buried on Mount Lûbâr in the land of Ararat. 16. Nine hundred and fifty years he completed in his life, nineteen jubilees and two
1659 A.M. weeks and five years. 17. And in his life on earth he excelled the children of men save Enoch because of the righteousness, wherein he was perfect. For Enoch's office was ordained for a testimony to the generations of the world, so that he should recount all the deeds of generation unto generation, till the day of judgment.
Book of Jubilees: The Book of Jubilees: Noah's Sons led astray by Evil Spirits; Noah's Prayer; Mastêmâ; Death of Noah (x. 1-17)
 
Old 09-27-2009, 09:31 PM
 
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Heh. Oh joy, more ramblings from the book of yabba-dabba-doo..
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