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Old 01-30-2010, 02:51 PM
 
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...Once again, as I challenged earlier: give the name(s) of your observer. Who ever observed continents or even large land masses sliding over other large land masses...in some cases without fracturing?...
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Observers all over the world are witnessing plate tectonics in action to this very day.

Ever hear of the earthquake in Haiti? And in the 2004 Indonesian earthquake (and resulting tsunami) the the Australian and Eurasian plates slid past each other by 18 meters in minutes.

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Old 01-30-2010, 03:07 PM
 
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Again, you haven't provided any evidence at all that hasn't been thoroughly debunked many times over. The links I provided several posts back alone completely demolish the arguments you've presented.

Utter nonsense. If you weren't so deeply brainwashed with accidentalist thought then the evidence I presented would be very clear in your mind. God's Word taught a universal deluge...and the evidence of that deluge is there....big time. You need to quit believing the cheap little arguments of people who ought to know better because their position is not honest.

Evidence of a universal cataclysm is world-wide in scope:

The erosion of the last few hundred years is seen at the foot of every plateau. Where is all the rest of the sediment that was once as high as the flat surfaces?

Agate Springs, Nebraska

North Africa

The Gobi Desert


South Dakota:

Point: Only a flood of enormous power could have moved all the millions of metric tons of sediment from one location to another part of a continent. Local erosion could not do that.

And lest you forget, if there was a flood at all it was the flood of Gilgamesh not Noah.

No, it was not. Gilgamesh and those of that age learned it from Noah and his family by oral tradition. But by that time the account had been corrupted. Moses is the one who got it right.

Therefore any "proof" you cite could only validate the accuracy of Sumerian mythology, not your Bible.

You aren't telling the truth. Jesus told the truth. He said there was a universal flood. There is absolutely nothing you can do to change the truth of what He said.

If you honestly believe there was a global flood then I suggest you start worshiping the Sumerian gods.

Bring them on! Lets see if those so-called Sumerian 'gods' can do what my Lord Jesus can do. The God I serve performs miracles and answers prayer. I and my companions have seen it.
I don't believe a word you are saying and you have no evidence for the truthfulness of evolution.
 
Old 01-30-2010, 03:11 PM
 
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I don't believe a word you are saying and you have no evidence for the truthfulness of evolution.
Then simply go away and don't bother those of us who are thinkers and not believers.

Unless, of course, you'd like to entertain us with your answer to how Noah fit 20 million breeding pairs of creatures on his boat.
 
Old 01-30-2010, 03:31 PM
 
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No, it was not. Gilgamesh and those of that age learned it from Noah and his family by oral tradition. But by that time the account had been corrupted. Moses is the one who got it right
Yawn.

Again, The Epic of Gilgamesh was around a thousand years before Noah, Moses, your Bible or your god were dreamt of.


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I don't believe a word you are saying and you have no evidence for the truthfulness of evolution.

I don't recall mentioning evolution. But unlike your flood and your Bible the evidence for evolution and an ancient earth are written in stone. Both are undeniable facts.
 
Old 01-30-2010, 03:39 PM
 
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Astron1000; Observers all over the world are witnessing plate tectonics in action to this very day.

Ever hear of the earthquake in Haiti? And in the 2004 Indonesian earthquake (and resulting tsunami) the the Australian and Eurasian plates slid past each other by 18 meters in minutes.[/quote]

I didn't say plate tectonics isn't occurring. Where did ANYONE, ANYWHERE see an entire continent slide over another continent.

YOU...are not being honest in your summation of this subject.

Give me names of those who witnessed what I challenged.

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You mean to tell me that the Alps (which are upside down(!) according to the so-called geologic column) slid over 500 miles because of plate tectonics? On which planet? Not planet earth.

But again, I challenge you to give us the name of an observer that such a thing every happened....AND that such things sometimes happen without shearing.

The Alps: upside down!

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Old 01-30-2010, 03:42 PM
 
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[quote=QuixoticHobbit;12683918]Yawn.

Again, The Epic of Gilgamesh was around a thousand years before Noah, Moses, your Bible or your god were dreamt of.

You aren't telling the truth. The only true and living God was known by Adam, Seth, Enoch, and Noah long before Gilgamesh every existed. The Sumerians LEARNED from what Noah had taught centuries before them.

You've got it backwards because you don't believe God communicated the factual account to His people. We do.

I don't recall mentioning evolution. But unlike your flood and your Bible the evidence for evolution and an ancient earth are written in stone. Both are undeniable facts.

That's simple a lie. There is no truth in it and there is no power in it.
 
Old 01-30-2010, 03:46 PM
 
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Then simply go away and don't bother those of us who are thinkers and not believers.

You are not a thinker. For you, its garbage in and garbage out. You are just spewing forth nonsense that you were taught and calling it 'science'.

The reason you want me to leave the board is because the real truth bothers you. It should.

Unless, of course, you'd like to entertain us with your answer to how Noah fit 20 million breeding pairs of creatures on his boat.

He didn't fit 20 million breeding pairs...genius.
Read Genesis 6 & 7 and quit believing the skeptical journals that gave you that nonsense.
 
Old 01-30-2010, 04:43 PM
 
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This thread is now reopened..Please stay on topic, do not hijack this thread into a chat room mentality or it will be locked permanently..
 
Old 01-30-2010, 05:38 PM
 
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....and not to mention that a number of cultures/civilisations such as the Egyptians and Chinese amongst others, appear to have survived your Noah's flood.
Did anyone say Noah was of any one specific races? Hamites, Shemites, and Japethites, I believe, are the three races that came after the flood.
 
Old 01-30-2010, 05:57 PM
 
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You are not a thinker. For you, its garbage in and garbage out. You are just spewing forth nonsense that you were taught and calling it 'science'.

The reason you want me to leave the board is because the real truth bothers you. It should.

He didn't fit 20 million breeding pairs...genius.

I don't want you to leave. You are very entertaining. right back 'atcha. And I suspect it is not I who is spewing nonsense.

I just want you to answer how Noah fit 20 million breeding pairs - or 40 million creatures - aboard his boat.

After all, you are arguing for Noah's existence and a world-wide flood that killed everything. To account for the 20+ million species alive today, you either have to admit Noah had 40 million creatures aboard his boat, or you have to admit to evolution. Which will it be?

Wait a second. No, it's more than 40 million. Because god instructed Noah to save seven pairs of "the birds and the clean animals." Hmmm. That might just push the number over 50 million!

Oh, and one other thing. To collect 40 million creatures - even at the rate of one per minute for 24/7 - it would have taken Noah 76+ years to accomplish that task.

Too bad for the mayflies. They only live for one day!


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