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There is a difference between stating that a practice of a certain religion is viewed as blasphemous and insulting a person. Remember the forum rule of "debate the topic not the person." If it is someones opinion then we should allow them to state it.
I don't think dreameyes would mind me saying that many people have posted critical opinions of the LDS faith and she did not take it personally, but defended her faith passionately!
Well if you go back to the LDS thread you will see that not only did I defend Mormons as Christian, but never insulted the faith as well, and I would say I do not believe in a lot of their doctrine. I hold others to the standards I try to live by. To say that someone's belief is blasphemous is the same as calling the person who holds that belief a blasphemer. It is insulting. It's the same as if I were to refer as fundementalists as "bible beaters" or Jehovah Witness as "a cult"....etc. So in this case I feel I am correct in stating that the remark is personally offensive to Catholics. There are much better ways to reference disagreements in beliefs than to call names.
I have no problem with you not agreeing that it is literally the body/blood of Christ, but I do have a problem with you resorting insulting Catholics, or anyone else, for their beliefs. I would have expected more from you. I would hope that as (presumably) intelligent adults and (hopefully) good Christians the beliefs of others would be respected and such insults (blasphmous, idolatry) would not be resorted to in the future.
I am not insulting Catholics. As a former Catholic I am sharing my viewpoint regarding the beliefs that religion holds. I completely disagree with the Catholic religion and personally felt extremely deceived by practices such as praying to Mary, saints, the Eucharist etc. I am not speaking against any one person, I am speaking against the people who invented these ideas to be a revenue stream for the Catholic religion. That is my belief and if it insults you I do apologize as it's not meant to be mean spirited toward you or any other CD person who reads this post.
You know...on this forum I've heard an awful lot of "I just want people to know the truth of Jesus so they can be saved...Jesus instructed us to spread the word," but honestly, people, if you can't even agree amongst yourselves, how on earth do you expect other people to agree with you?
Which of you are we supposed to agree with?
Sorry to say, this is an incredibly divisive religion, even among its own ranks.
I suggest anyone who is truly seeking to look to God's word for the answers not man or a religion's doctrine. People will disappoint but God never will.
I am not insulting Catholics. As a former Catholic I am sharing my viewpoint regarding the beliefs that religion holds. I completely disagree with the Catholic religion and personally felt extremely deceived by practices such as praying to Mary, saints, the Eucharist etc. I am not speaking against any one person, I am speaking against the people who invented these ideas to be a revenue stream for the Catholic religion. That is my belief and if it insults you I do apologize as it's not meant to be mean spirited toward you or any other CD person who reads this post.
Again I do not have a problem with your oppinions on the church or it's teaching. I do have a problem with using a derrogatory and inflammatory word to describe the Church and therefore it's followers. It was pointed out in earlier threads that myself and another Catholic posting here did indeed find it offensive, and you used it again anyway. That is a lack of respect in my eyes. If you had posted your oppinion in the way you did here in this post it wouldn't have offended me as a Catholic, or an individual, and it would have made your point stronger. I really dont' see how you don't understand the difference.
I suggest anyone who is truly seeking to look to God's word for the answers not man or a religion's doctrine. People will disappoint but God never will.
By God's word I am assuming you are referring to the bible right? Well since the doctrine's of most denominations of Christianity are their way of interpreting God's words how is that not looking to God as you are referring to? Isn't it much the same as someone reading for themselves coming to a belief about what it means, sharing that belief with others who then decide they agree with that belief? This of course is assuming all have actually read and come to conclusions not just followed along and said ok I'll believe this, and believe me I'm not saying that is right either. I just don't see why there are so many differences in what is to be believed between the denominations, and how that all happens. I probably won't ever understand it, but I plan on trying.
I suggest anyone who is truly seeking to look to God's word for the answers not man or a religion's doctrine. People will disappoint but God never will.
The Bible came to us through the Church. I don't know of anyone who got their Bible straight out of heaven or angel-delivery service. You have the Bible because of the Church.
So it makes no sense to me to take the Church's Bible, which you have because the Church assures you it is true, then discount the teachings of the Church. That makes no logical sense to me.
I don't think dreameyes would mind me saying that many people have posted critical opinions of the LDS faith and she did not take it personally, but defended her faith passionately!
The Bible came to us through the Church. I don't know of anyone who got their Bible straight out of heaven or angel-delivery service. You have the Bible because of the Church.
So it makes no sense to me to take the Church's Bible, which you have because the Church assures you it is true, then discount the teachings of the Church. That makes no logical sense to me.
Sort of glad that I've been out on this one. But I agree with Mark "Big S" on this one. This is something that I have never understood either.
Oh, and I suggested this in a thread a few days ago. It became a nice social, but never took off in the postings. It was "who are you". I thought it would be nice to clarify who we were at the beginning of post so that we knew where a persons belief system was coming from. For instance,
Only by the lives of the beautiful and faithful martyrs do we have the Bible in a language we can read. Until Wycliff's translation and subsequent distribution to those outside the 'church', the only scripture allowed was in Latin. We take having our Bibles so casually, yet men died for us to have it. And we shouldn't take someone else's verification without our own study of what is truth.
II Timothy 2:15 -- Study! ...
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I would have expected more from you. I would hope that as (presumably) intelligent adults and (hopefully) good Christians the beliefs of others would be respected and such insults (blasphmous, idolatry) would not be resorted to in the future.
