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Section 36-C(a) is very clear that it is a credit against taxes and you cannot get paid for more than the taxes you owe. I have no idea why Rovner made that comment. It is not what the bill says.
I haven't read the whole thread, but my retirement plans are proceeding, end date 12/2017 or so, and I have my concerns over health care. At best I have factored supplemental coverage into my plan and everything's OK, at worst health care costs soar or something catastrophic happens to Medicare, then I get a PT job to cover my medical insurance costs. Income limits for SS is $16K/yr , should more than cover it. So, we have to consider political scenarios in our retirement plans, just one more thing that's a fact of modern life.
Geez- talk about mixing apples and oranges- you make it sound like you can just waltz into Costco and come out with a job- you can't.
This is the truth . Same goes for Safeway , Fred Meyer , Wal Mart and the like I cannot count how many places.
I am still waiting to hear for my husband who got laid off in Dec. Then got hurt in a freak lab accident during a pre employment drug test and when that happened his unemployment stopped. This is a 30 year long aviation mechanic who HOPES to peel plastic off bottles Monday morning through the local temp agency while he waits on the funding approval to get re trained for another profession .
Read carefully, he is an Ex-CEO. I know there is a canned answer from the left. It's hard to reduce entitlement program. I know I would be mad too. But it's not a right to retire pre-Medicare age.
Last time I checked Home Depot and Costco both offer part time job with healthcare.
Left from YOU isn't the same as an actual "leftist". Labeling doesn't change facts. We should have universal health care and the health insurance industry should disappear. The idea that you can make something cheaper and more efficient by injecting multiple middle-men whose sole motivation is profit at every level is ludicrous.
Left from YOU isn't the same as an actual "leftist". Labeling doesn't change facts. We should have universal health care and the health insurance industry should disappear. The idea that you can make something cheaper and more efficient by injecting multiple middle-men whose sole motivation is profit at every level is ludicrous.
Almost as ridiculous as believing you can make anything cheaper by subsidizing demand.
Left from YOU isn't the same as an actual "leftist". Labeling doesn't change facts. We should have universal health care and the health insurance industry should disappear. The idea that you can make something cheaper and more efficient by injecting multiple middle-men whose sole motivation is profit at every level is ludicrous.
The idea that universal health care is the answer. That's the left. Why should the health insurance disappear?
Left from YOU isn't the same as an actual "leftist". Labeling doesn't change facts. We should have universal health care and the health insurance industry should disappear. The idea that you can make something cheaper and more efficient by injecting multiple middle-men whose sole motivation is profit at every level is ludicrous.
Reality is that it is profit that creates the vehicles to deliver the services we get. Capital gets deployed to create and make more capital
Reality is that it is profit that creates the vehicles to deliver the services we get. Capital gets deployed to create and make more capital
I think his/her point is that insurance companies, who have a very powerful profit motive, do not have your best interest in mind, they have the best interests of their shareholders in mind.
Right or wrong, insurance companies deny claims every day, all day, because every time they pay out, that cuts into the bottom line. The longer they can deny or delay, the better it is for the bottom line. Which means that CEO's bonus goes down, because they are not in it for altruistic reasons, they are in it to make money. That is how corporate America works and we all know it.
What I find fascinating, is the those in countries with UHC pay less, half, per ca pita than we do. Why is that?
And before anyone starts with the nonsense about how "bad" their care is, I lived in one of those countries for many years and the care was fantastic. Most on here who spout off about UHC in other countries have no clue as they have never been or lived anywhere with that kind of program.
There are a lot of reasons, but it's useless to have calm, reasoned conversations about them because we have been programmed as a country to associate anything with the word socialist with communist. Which is ironic, in and of itself, since we have so many socialized programs. And the fact that MEDICARE is socialized medicine just kills me when people on this board spout off on the horrors of UHC, yet they have exactly that, just limited to a subset of society.
And if anyone believes that their contributions to Medicare during their working careers even comes close to covering their medical costs is either delusional or just doesn't care. They got theirs, screw everyone else.
And this is not directed at Tuborg, his post was just easy to work from.
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