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Old 12-21-2017, 10:32 AM
 
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Will this list change with new tax laws? Just askin'
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Old 12-21-2017, 11:54 AM
 
Location: moved
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I think a lot depends where you spent the last 30 years too.
Very true! I'm tired of the Midwest. I'm tired of the climate-extremes, of the corn and beans, the flat landlocked expanses, the "heartland" culture, the depressed economy, the lack of international cosmopolitanism. I miss the salty ocean air, I miss the wide boulevards and grand edifices built centuries ago. I miss the staccato, mellifluous cadence of my native-language. But as Tom Wolfe warned us, a true return is impossible. We must plod along at present course, or perhaps if we're insistent on a change, the change is one more novelty, and not some fable of a distant past. But this of course means even more options, and even more ambiguity.
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Old 12-21-2017, 01:57 PM
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Location: California
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That surveys method is terrible. After being retired and living among retirees, I can tell you the biggest concerns for retirees.
1. Weather. Old people get cold easy, and cold weather also makes people with arthritus miserable.
2.Taxes.
3.Cost of living.
4.Crime rates.
5.Recreation
6.Access to health care.

Some of the factors listed here Ive never heard discussed. Most retirees dont care much for how obese people are. Ive never met one who wanted to take college courses. Never heard anyone talk about the health of the state govts finances or the economy in the state, or what the average per capita income of a states residents.
Crime rates aren't a good measure for a state. That's more of a local thing. Where I live its extremely safe, but 50 miles from here is dangerous. States are too varied for a stat like that to play into this kind of list.
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Old 12-21-2017, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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ever wonder why they don't put the list on one or two pages.

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Because that would defeat the purpose of click-bait, which is why online publications assign an intern to spend an afternoon compiling these phony lists in the firsts place.
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Old 12-22-2017, 03:09 PM
 
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Did I see Kiplinger has designated some of the best paces that are in the worse states.
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Old 12-23-2017, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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So the worst state is NY, but as the article itself states:
"One (pricey) Big Apple spoils the entire Empire State. Manhattan reigns as the most expensive place to live in the U.S., with costs soaring 127.4% above the national average, according to the Council for Community and Economic Research. New York sports the second-highest living costs of any state, behind only Hawaii."

Most retirees will not be living in Manhattan. Western NY State has among the lowest health care and housing costs in the US. NY doesn't tax the first $20k of pension income, doesn't tax social security income, and doesn't tax any government pensions at all.
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Old 12-24-2017, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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Using our methodology, the following 15 states rank as the least attractive for retirees. That doesn't make them terrible places to live.

https://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/...5&kwp_1=901145
It's simple, all the blue states suck.
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Old 12-24-2017, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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So the worst state is NY, but as the article itself states:
"One (pricey) Big Apple spoils the entire Empire State. Manhattan reigns as the most expensive place to live in the U.S., with costs soaring 127.4% above the national average, according to the Council for Community and Economic Research. New York sports the second-highest living costs of any state, behind only Hawaii."

Most retirees will not be living in Manhattan. Western NY State has among the lowest health care and housing costs in the US. NY doesn't tax the first $20k of pension income, doesn't tax social security income, and doesn't tax any government pensions at all.
And who pays for those gold plated non taxed gvmnt pensions....every time they buy something.
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