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Old 06-14-2019, 11:45 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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And maybe some are so self-aware that they aren't aware of any others!

Well many of those folks are not so self-aware (at least as regards to seeing themselves in the light of reality), as much as self-absorbed.
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Old 06-14-2019, 11:47 AM
 
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And maybe some are so self-aware that they aren't aware of any others!
Funny, but some truth in that too.
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Old 06-14-2019, 12:51 PM
 
Location: planet earth
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You can progress in personal development with lack of self awareness. I don't really understand the question as it is worded.

Plus lots of people think they are self aware, and they really do not appear to be to others.
I don't understand your first sentence. Can you give an example?
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Old 06-14-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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???? People continue to grow throughout their lives, whether they have an interest in self-actualization or not.
Some do not.
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Old 06-14-2019, 12:53 PM
 
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If I'm understanding the question correctly, then yes I have definitely come to understand myself better at an 'older age' than I did when younger. Or perhaps it's that I eventually came to acknowledge those things (and motivations) to myself. Probably a bit of both. But it wasn't a conscious decision, it was a gradual thing that came as a result of things that happened over the years. I never had a conscious need to "find myself", as the saying was back in the 1960s. Never felt that I had to search out some sort of "meaning of life" or "reason for my existence."

Eventually I realized that when I was younger I too often tried to remake myself, for the wrong reasons. Now at my age I have come to accept myself as I am, for the right reasons.
Interesting!
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Old 06-14-2019, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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I think I understand your question, and my answer is “yes.”
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Old 06-14-2019, 01:57 PM
 
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Some do not.
It's their choice of course. Some people like who they are and don't feel the need to be constantly enriched to meet someone else's standard. And like your name implies, it's no one's business but their own.
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Old 06-14-2019, 02:42 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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Yes. I find it hard to imagine one can avoid doing so. I suppose some people don't develop as much as others, but also find it hard to imagine those who can't will realize it, let alone admit it. What's special about "retirement age"? People can have epiphanies and reinvent themselves at any point in their lives, can look back to reflect on how they've changed at any point too.
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Old 06-14-2019, 02:47 PM
 
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???? People continue to grow throughout their lives, whether they have an interest in self-actualization or not.
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Some do not.
I have the feeling that the two of you may not have the same thing in mind.

The OP was stated in terms of self-actualization, self awareness, etc. a rather specific course/direction of development. But growing does not have to involve these particular qualities. It strikes me that as long as we are alive (i.e., physically growing....albeit at the same time that growing is always in the direction of older to old to death) we are also growing mentally/emotionally. The experiences of living will shape that growth at the very least, plus decisions we make about the experiences of living will also shape that growth.

I may even say to your 50-year-old self in disgust, "Oh, grow up!", but at the bottom this doesn't mean that you have failed to grow up, but rather that you have failed to do it as I would like for you to have done it.

As a kind of P.S. - Perhaps those rare individuals who are in comas for many years and then become conscious again raise questions about their mental/emotional growth, if not their physical.
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Old 06-14-2019, 02:56 PM
 
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I am wondering if people of retirement age feel that they have progressed in personal development over the years, or if you had no interest in self-actualization or self-awareness.

Do people with no self-awareness have awareness of that fact?
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