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Old Yesterday, 08:39 AM
Location: Rust'n in Tustin
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Does anybody else find this non stop begging for tips out of control? I live in California. The least an employee can be paid is the state minimum wage of $12 an hour.

On January 1, 2020 it goes up to $13 an hour. Yet every where I go there's a tip jar. I begrudgingly tip waitresses 15%, but that's it. It's not rocket science.

I refuse to tip anybody else. If you don't like your job, get a different one. If you don't like your wages, talk to your employer, not me. If you made a bad career choice, I'm sorry.

Old Yesterday, 08:43 AM
Location: Central IL
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Why should tipping end just because you're retired? Your "fixed income"? In reality, even if you're working your income is pretty much "fixed".

My guess is that you never wanted to tip and now you have what you think is a good excuse. Oh - just waitresses? Guess you tip men absolutely nothing?
Old Yesterday, 08:47 AM
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Um, the issue arises when retirement income is less (sometimes significantly less) than one's working income. Which is, I daresay, more the norm than the exception.

"Fixed income" is irrelevant. "Smaller, fixed income" is absolutely relevant.
Old Yesterday, 08:48 AM
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Originally Posted by ysr_racer View Post
Does anybody else find this non stop begging for tips out of control? I live in California.
I'm sorry you live in California. My sympathy.

Here goes another contentious tip thread, in which participants bash each other amid accusations of "Cheapskate!" and nothing is ever settled.

The easy way to avoid seeing tip jars is to prepare food at home. Notice how supermarket checkers never ask to be tipped?

I'm the world's worst cook but even I can make quesadillas and reheat soup from Whole Foods. We have cut back on eating out quite a bit in the last few months. Now it's mostly reserved for social occasions.
Old Yesterday, 08:49 AM
Location: VT; previously MD & NJ
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Restaurant wages have always been much, much lower than other jobs. That is why tipping has always been expected. Does CA require $12 or $13 per hour for restaurant workers?

I also get annoyed about tipping, but I do it.
Old Yesterday, 08:51 AM
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Lots of 'tip jars' for counter help in Seattle ($15 / hr minimum wage)
"Seattle Freeze" culture, so customer interactions / service is totally non-existent, it's unknown in that culture.
Wait staff makes certain you know how much they hate serving you.
30 second transactions, what is the appropriate tip amount?
Old Yesterday, 08:52 AM
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I only leave a tip {spits to cleanse the mouth} if I absolutely must.
Old Yesterday, 08:55 AM
Location: northern New England
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So if you are struggling with lower income in retirement, don't go out to eat as much.

Just curious, do even waitstaff get $12 an hour in CA?
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Old Yesterday, 09:07 AM
Location: The Berk in Denver, CO USA
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Originally Posted by ansible90 View Post
Does CA require $12 or $13 per hour for restaurant workers?
Maybe. No.
Originally Posted by VTsnowbird View Post
Just curious, do even waitstaff get $12 an hour in CA?
Maybe. Yes
"$11.00 or $12.00 Same for tipped and non-tipped employees (26+ employees pays higher rate)"
Old Yesterday, 09:11 AM
Location: San Diego
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Many places here in CA will help you out by including the tip in the bill.
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