Do we underestimate and downplay how Great Sacramento weather really is? (Oakland: movie theater, shopping center)

[Chimérique]

Early Autumn 2015
Oct 2, 2015
10:15 a.m.

Phoenix 88F - Sunny

San Diego 74F - Partly Cloudy
Pasadena, Southern Cal 73F - Sunny

Sacramento 68F - Sunny

Bay Area - East Bay 66F - Sunny

Portland 58F - Cloudy

Washington DC - 52F - Rain - Same latitude as Sacramento

[Chimérique]

Recap of the summer, so not only is Phoenix on average 15-35 degrees hotter than Sacramento on average across the summer, Phoenix continues with higher heat into the fall.

[Chimérique]

Sacramento 68F - Sunny

Bay Area - East Bay 66F - Sunny

Bay Areans and other California coastal locations like to "exaggerate" how different their climate/weather is than Sacramento, but in fact, the Bay Area is near identical to Sacramento for 9 months out of the year especially when you are comparing the Bay Area with the rest of the country.

Let's be specific, the Bay Area is only different during daytime temps after 12 noon during the summer. Sacramento summer nights and mornings are in the same cooler range of temps on average, and as I've said before, Bay Area summer nights and mornings are the *coolest in the nation during the summer and Sacramento is just 2-3 degrees warmer during those hours - average low for Sacramento on average during summer is 58-62F.

Seattle and Portland may be more like the Bay Area in the summer, but Sacramento is more like the Bay Area during the fall, winter, and spring both a.m. and p.m.

During summer nights and mornings, all 3 locales: Bay Area, Sacramento, Pacific Northwest are more alike than different and all have the *coolest temps in the nation during those hours.

*Regarding major metro areas in the USA.

[Chimérique]

So what are the chances of having a HIGH temp that is 79F or below in the "4 months of Summer" - June, July, Aug, Sept. -- Sort of a break from any kind of higher heat, all day long.

Number of Days where the High temp was 79F or below during the summer 2015. Note that in the West, 79F with low humidity, and a comfortable dew point feels much more comfortable than 79F in a humid, high dew point climate.

Using Heat Index for Portland and Sacramento:

Portland - 28 days
Sacramento - 16 days
*Fresno - 1 day
*Phoenix - Zero days
*Las Vegas - Zero days
*Austin, Texas - Zero days

*Using heat index for these cities, didn't amount to more or less days, so actual temps were used:

To recap, during our warmest/hottest time of year, how many days can we expect a true break from any kind of higher heat?

Sacramento beats all the high-heat cities of similar size. Phoenix, Las Vegas, and Austin can "never" count on any "fluke" Cool days during the Summer; whereas, Sacramento had 16 of them.

[ashpelham]

Originally Posted by caligirlz

It's Gravenstein apple season too. Just bought some at the Nugget. If you like them, it's a super short season. So time to stock up.

It's drizzling today. Yay

That's Birmingham's weather most of the time. Our "fall" appears to be over already. It's gray flannel season.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

Recap of the summer, so not only is Phoenix on average 15-35 degrees hotter than Sacramento on average across the summer, Phoenix continues with higher heat into the fall.

Phoenix is the hottest city in the nation and outside of winter and maybe early spring is always hotter than everywhere else. Still don't get how being cooler than Phoenix is worth pointing out when everywhere else is cooler as well.


And the inland Bay Area is similar to Sacramento, the rest of it is much milder overall.

[Blimp]

Originally Posted by sav858

the inland Bay Area is similar to Sacramento, the rest of it is much milder overall.

Mild and boring, that's for sure. But the Bay Area is more than just its boring weather.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Blimp

Mild and boring, that's for sure. But the Bay Area is more than just its boring weather.

Consant warmth/heat and sun is pretty boring too....

[ABrandNewWorld]

Constant sun and dryness is boring but cold, overcast drizzle for weeks on the end is even worse. Give me lots of rain but not at the expense of sunshine.

BTW, SoCal has been FAR wetter than northern California in the past few months. We had multiple episodes of heavy rain since May, record setting rain with nearly 2 inches in San Diego in July and well over two inches in L.A downtown in September and we are going to get some handsome thunderstorms on Sunday....and we are getting rain with temperatures in the 70s which means you don't get chilled in it

I think our "warm epoch" means San Diego will have more rain during the 2015-2016 year than Sactown. I'm banking on over 20 inches of rain in San Diego, possibly over 30 in L.A this season. You might be importing your water from us next summer. Long live our warm epoch!

[Chimérique]

Originally Posted by ABrandNewWorld

Constant sun and dryness is boring but cold, overcast drizzle for weeks on the end is even worse. Give me lots of rain but not at the expense of sunshine.

BTW, SoCal has been FAR wetter than northern California in the past few months. We had multiple episodes of heavy rain since May, record setting rain with nearly 2 inches in San Diego in July and well over two inches in L.A downtown in September and we are going to get some handsome thunderstorms on Sunday....and we are getting rain with temperatures in the 70s which means you don't get chilled in it

I think our "warm epoch" means San Diego will have more rain during the 2015-2016 year than Sactown. I'm banking on over 20 inches of rain in San Diego, possibly over 30 in L.A this season. You might be importing your water from us next summer. Long live our warm epoch!

Problem is SoCal does not have huge reservoirs to store that water nor a way to transport it to NorCal, more importantly, your added water/precp is not in the form of a deep snow pack that lasts an entire year to be spread across the state like NorCal has been doing for the entire state for the last 75 years.

There is a reason why the Sacramento River is California's largest river by a long shot compared to all the others small rivers of SoCal. The Sacramento River is a constant all season large flow of water in California.

Also, the flora and fauna, is as such in SoCal - leafless or very small-leaf trees, lack of large deciduous trees, etc, because you get much less rain than NorCal, which proves how much more rain NorCal gets.

NorCal has 150 years of weather data indicating how much more rain Sacramento/NorCal gets over San Diego/SoCal. You have a few months of weather data showing more rain. Never happened before, EVER.

Only time will tell, if this is a permanent change, as I pray it's not, I would hate it, if Sacramento started to permanently look like SoCal or Phoenix.