SA =low wage (Houston, Dallas, San Antonio: transplants, layoffs, living in)

[TexasGuy22]

Originally Posted by SweethomeSanAntonio

A metro of nearly 2.4 million (S.A.)is not dwarfed by Houston/Galveston or Dallas/Ft Worth, one reason is because hou/dal count larger territories, making them much larger. It would be like adding metro Austin and it would be a more equal comparison.

S.A. is not in their league in some categories but definitely the Laredo analogy is not a good example.

S.A. 2.3 plus million vs 6 million pop. Dallas/Ft Worth and Houston/Galveston are in the top 5 largest metros. S.A. is more in the league of Denver, Portland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore size type metros.

Laredo 300k vs S.A. 2.3 million.

San Antonio compares to Laredo more in low wage and education level.

[Austinite101]

Originally Posted by SweethomeSanAntonio

Gross metro product is based on total receipts/sales, defined as the market value of all final goods and services produced within a metropolitan area in a given period, which is usually one year.So the more expensive things are the higher the GMP total.

S.A. has a bigger economy, more F500, more regional offices, larger corporate base, and so on. Im not saying Austin is much smaller but it hasn't eclipsed S.A. at least not yet. Austin is more educated by 12% something S.A. has to work on.

What are Austin major industries and what are their impacts in billions of dollars on the economy?

Biomedical/healthcare $25 billion
Finance/Insurance $21 billion
Dept of Defense growing stronger over 20 billion.
manufacturing $15 billion
Convention/Tourism $11 billion
I.T. Industry/ Cyber Security $10 billion
Aerospace $6 billion.

Your missing the point. Just because a corporation or business is located or headquartered in the city does not mean that everything its corporations expend will be calculated into its economic size. GDP is the most accurate way to determine economic size. And I don't know if you have ever taken Economics, but Real GDP takes into account price level. Your arguement based on that is invalid.

And just to correct you on the educational attainment, 45% of Austinites have a Bachelors degree or higher. The figure for San Antonio is 23.7% That "12% something" is more like 21.3%.

[teenwolf80]

Originally Posted by TexasGuy22

San Antonio compares to Laredo more in low wage and education level.

Yikes. Please don't ever make claims again. Well, only if they're not as made up and full of fail as this one.

[teenwolf80]

Originally Posted by TexasGuy22

Comparing San Antonio to Austin makes sense only within the state. As the seventh largest city?, San Antonio should be compared to Houston and Dallas. When this is done, San Antonio is far below its peers.

No it shouldn't.

Comparing city population to metro population (whether msa or csa) is apples and oranges.

I try my best to never enter threads like this (flame bait threads) but sometime's I'm glad I do because sometime's posters post incredibly inaccurate things/claims.

[teenwolf80]

Originally Posted by Austinite101

Your missing the point. Just because a corporation or business is located or headquartered in the city does not mean that everything its corporations expend will be calculated into its economic size. GDP is the most accurate way to determine economic size. And I don't know if you have ever taken Economics, but Real GDP takes into account price level. Your arguement based on that is invalid.

And just to correct you on the educational attainment, 45% of Austinites have a Bachelors degree or higher. The figure for San Antonio is 23.7% That "12% something" is more like 21.3%.

Dismissing the fact that this is the San Antonio forum, why things always become a lame versus contest is beyond my understanding.

The poster said education not bachelor degrees. Words are key, reading them is crucial. Please tell me how great it is to have a bachelors and not have a job. Does that degree print money or something? How exactly does a degree prove you're more "Educated" than someone without a degree? Because you're learned in a specific field?

Ask Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Warren Buffett, etc if they think they're not "educated" because they don't have a college degree.

Any how. Way to use the percentage for the city which is skewed by the low income areas of the inner city.

The percentage for bachelor degrees goes to 25% for Bexar than up to 30% for the metro area.

That 30% figure is above the state average. Could it be better? Yes. Is it getting better? Yes. In 2000, the percentage for people with a bachelors or higher in the metro was 22%.

So enough with you and the others trying to belittle San Antonio.

Moderator cut: don't use red

[teenwolf80]

Originally Posted by Austinite101

Per capita income is not the same as in Austin. Austin has a smaller populatilon and a larger economy. It would be mathematically impossible. I think it would be unfair to cast San Antonio off as a "low wage" city in a negative light, but there is no getting around the fact that the average income in much lower than its peers.

Again, words are important and reading them correctly is crucial.

The poster said "about the same." Not the same.

And as of 2010, the difference in per capita income was around $3,500. Houston and Dallas had higher per capita incomes, just as the poster stated.

And between 2006 and 2010, the per capita income for San Antonio increased by more.

[teenwolf80]

Originally Posted by TexasGuy22

San Antonio compares to Laredo more in low wage and education level.

I have to quote again. Just...

But I've read some of your previous comments in this and other things so I'm now not that surprised.

[TexasGuy22]

Originally Posted by teenwolf80

I have to quote again. Just...

But I've read some of your previous comments in this and other things so I'm now not that surprised.

You can all you want but the fact remains San Antonio has extremely low levels of education for its population size. The level of education the city has is more on par with a city much much smaller in size i.e. Laredo. As much as I would like to place San Antonio on the same level as Dallas/Houston, you just can not do that.

San Antonio suffers what many other developing/third countries suffer from and that is something called Brain Drain. Many of the UTSA grads and highly education people like myself with multiple degrees are wanting to leave this city due to the lack of opportunities and "culture" that is San Antonio. i have met countless grads from the other big TX schools that come here and want to leave ASAP.

If SA wants to be on par with the other larger TX cities, it must first start by educating its own people first.

[rynetwo]

Originally Posted by TexasGuy22

You can all you want but the fact remains San Antonio has extremely low levels of education for its population size. The level of education the city has is more on par with a city much much smaller in size i.e. Laredo. As much as I would like to place San Antonio on the same level as Dallas/Houston, you just can not do that.

San Antonio suffers what many other developing/third countries suffer from and that is something called Brain Drain. Many of the UTSA grads and highly education people like myself with multiple degrees are wanting to leave this city due to the lack of opportunities and "culture" that is San Antonio. i have met countless grads from the other big TX schools that come here and want to leave ASAP.

If SA wants to be on par with the other larger TX cities, it must first start by educating its own people first.

I'd do research before I kept posting wrong assumptions.

Here is a quick look at Bachelor's degrees by METRO.

Austin 39.4%

Dallas 31.1%

Houston 28.4%

San Antonio 25.4%

Laredo 16.7%

That was very easy research to complete.

Source's

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/48/48479.html

http://recenter.tamu.edu/mreports/

[jeffutsa2001]

Originally Posted by TexasGuy22

You can all you want but the fact remains San Antonio has extremely low levels of education for its population size. The level of education the city has is more on par with a city much much smaller in size i.e. Laredo. As much as I would like to place San Antonio on the same level as Dallas/Houston, you just can not do that.

San Antonio suffers what many other developing/third countries suffer from and that is something called Brain Drain. Many of the UTSA grads and highly education people like myself with multiple degrees are wanting to leave this city due to the lack of opportunities and "culture" that is San Antonio. i have met countless grads from the other big TX schools that come here and want to leave ASAP.

If SA wants to be on par with the other larger TX cities, it must first start by educating its own people first.

I don't see how we can compare to Laredo...That's an insult (sorry). Every year we have 100,000+ people enrolled in area colleges and universities in this city. That's probably the size Laredo. If we would have better paying jobs here locally we could keep our graduates here. I personally think SA is moving in the right direction (slowly than our bigger cities in Texas).