Incarnate Word Student Killed During Traffic Stop (Allen, Howe: apartment, condo)

[ItsTheTruth]

Originally Posted by rynetwo

Does that even matter?

This is UIW PD department wide policy.

It matters when you're in a fight and you're not agile and you get winded quickly. No way does an officer of appropriate weight lose a fight with a (probably) drunk guy shorter and skinnier than him.

What's the reason for the policy? Are they scared of someone dying? How ironic.

[rynetwo]

Originally Posted by ItsTheTruth

It matters when you're in a fight and you're not agile and you get winded quickly. No way does an officer of appropriate weight lose a fight with a (probably) drunk guy shorter and skinnier than him.

What's the reason for the policy? Are they scared of someone dying? How ironic.

That does make sense.

[Merovee]

So can a campus police officer issue a citation for speeding on a street outside the strict boundaries of their property? If so which court would they report to? County Court?

[prim8]

My understanding is any officer in Texas can write you a citation anywhere in the state. They don't have a jurisdiction that have to stick to.

I would imagine court would be wherever the offense occurred.

[Azure110]

I can't imagine a cop would want to do that very often. They would have to go to that courthouse every time the person appears to contest the ticket? It might be more of a hassle for them than their own "home" court?

[ashbeeigh]

Originally Posted by MattTx

I can't imagine a cop would want to do that very often. They would have to go to that courthouse every time the person appears to contest the ticket? It might be more of a hassle for them than their own "home" court?

Do you remember a few weeks ago when a Castle Hills Police Officer responded to something happening near Gillbeau and Bandera? (Off-duty officer shoots man to death - San Antonio Express-News) I have little to no knowledge of the criminal justice system, but I feel from the explanations of that situations that leaving your jurisdiction for an emergency or as requested may be alright.

[Azure110]

Originally Posted by ashbeeigh

Do you remember a few weeks ago when a Castle Hills Police Officer responded to something happening near Gillbeau and Bandera? (Off-duty officer shoots man to death - San Antonio Express-News) I have little to no knowledge of the criminal justice system, but I feel from the explanations of that situations that leaving your jurisdiction for an emergency or as requested may be alright.

I don't recall that story but I guess it pretty much confirms that they can operate outside of their jurisdiction for whatever reasons.

[pr57001]

It has been well reported a university officer is licensed in every county where said university has a presence.

[Neshomamench]

Peace Officers in in Texas are granted their license by the State and have Jurisdiction in the entire State. There are a few minor details to that (some traffic issues in counties not touching the county where you have your job) but again, within the entire State, 24/7 a cop is a cop. In General, within the State, cops don't have jurisdiction issues. Courts are the ones will well defines jurisdictions, but they do overlap sometimes and courts not only have geographic jurisdiction boundaries, they also have jurisdiction issues on the kinds of cases they can take.

Now, an agency may have some policies, as long as they don't conflict with State of Federal laws, that govern what an Officer can and cant do.

As for the courts, really not that big of a deal as long as you are in the same county you work in. Everyone uses they same courts anyways with the exception of things like a speeding ticket, and a university cop, working for an agency that doesn't have a court, would just file a speeding ticket or the like with the Justice of the Peace Court...which will be a court of jurisdiction outside the gates as well.

To sum it all up, while there are details, a Texas cops jurisdiction is the State of Texas, 24/7.

[Merovee]

Originally Posted by Neshomamench

Peace Officers in in Texas are granted their license by the State and have Jurisdiction in the entire State. There are a few minor details to that (some traffic issues in counties not touching the county where you have your job) but again, within the entire State, 24/7 a cop is a cop. In General, within the State, cops don't have jurisdiction issues. Courts are the ones will well defines jurisdictions, but they do overlap sometimes and courts not only have geographic jurisdiction boundaries, they also have jurisdiction issues on the kinds of cases they can take.

Now, an agency may have some policies, as long as they don't conflict with State of Federal laws, that govern what an Officer can and cant do.

As for the courts, really not that big of a deal as long as you are in the same county you work in. Everyone uses they same courts anyways with the exception of things like a speeding ticket, and a university cop, working for an agency that doesn't have a court, would just file a speeding ticket or the like with the Justice of the Peace Court...which will be a court of jurisdiction outside the gates as well.

To sum it all up, while there are details, a Texas cops jurisdiction is the State of Texas, 24/7.

Thanks for the answer.

My second guess would have been JP court but was not sure.

Also, really do not understand why it is so difficult to comply with an officer's requests if any during a traffic stop. Would rather end up in JP court than in a casket. It does sound as if perhaps not having any experience at all being pulled over in a large urban area could have contributed to the circumstances. One witness heard the suspect speak sarcastically to the officer before the shooting as if he was not taking the traffic stop seriously.