Coronavirus San Antonio (merged) (China: buying, dangerous, safe)

[txbullsfan]

Just looked a bit more into this. This is a bit concerning:
https://news4sanantonio.com/news/loc...-jbsa-lackland

"There may be additional cases that we identify," said Capt. Jennifer McQuiston of the CDC. "I do want to prepare you for that."

The patient is currently being cared for at an undisclosed San Antonio hospital and was first found to have a fever on the morning of February 11.

"There will likely be additional cases in the coming days and weeks, including among other people recently returned from Wuhan."

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These passengers and the now confirmed case were probably initially heavily screened and initially came up negative but now, a bit later, someone is showing positive. This is concerning considering incubation periods are up to 2 weeks, people are able to transmit without showing symptoms, people are passing screenings only to actually have the virus and the government is relying on the "honor system" for those comming back from that high risk location that they will indeed self report and remain in their homes and not go get a loaf of bread (or something else) just one time out of the quarantine period.

[cobolt]

Originally Posted by txbullsfan

Just looked a bit more into this. This is a bit concerning:
https://news4sanantonio.com/news/loc...-jbsa-lackland

"There may be additional cases that we identify," said Capt. Jennifer McQuiston of the CDC. "I do want to prepare you for that."

The patient is currently being cared for at an undisclosed San Antonio hospital and was first found to have a fever on the morning of February 11.

"There will likely be additional cases in the coming days and weeks, including among other people recently returned from Wuhan."

- End article excerpts

These passengers and the now confirmed case were probably initially heavily screened and initially came up negative but now, a bit later, someone is showing positive. This is concerning considering incubation periods are up to 2 weeks, people are able to transmit without showing symptoms, people are passing screenings only to actually have the virus and the government is relying on the "honor system" for those comming back from that high risk location that they will indeed self report and remain in their homes and not go get a loaf of bread (or something else) just one time out of the quarantine period.

And this was exactly my point in my last post. There seems to be this willy-nilly treatment when we know that people can present asymptomatic and still host the virus. If a group is quarantined and then another person presents with the virus, the whole quarantine period should be extended 14 days. The clock gets reset with each case (it should), but it isn't. We have people testing inconclusive and later testing positive. We still don't know ALL the ways this can transmit or how long it lives outside the host, nor do we know how many times it's mutated and how well it's adapting to changing environments.

And yeah, I got out of that briefing that although one case was confirmed, there will be more, perhaps 4-5 more.

The whole cruise ship fiasco was another mishandling. Note that the cases on the Diamond Princess continue to increase. No one on that ship has been allowed to leave. This is just creating some sort of floating petrie dish, a hyper-concentrated form of the virus that would be similar to something that would present in say a small, localized community with little to no population influx. So I understand those on the ship were kept there so as to not infect Japan, but now we have individuals who probably have a strengthened version of the virus that either has more severe symptoms or spreads more rapidly. Again, floating petrie dish.

It just seems there is alot of confusion as to how to handle this. Again, until the unknowns are known, it should be with the most strict protocol, but I don't see that happening.

[elnina]

Yup. First case is confirmed:
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/02...onio-cdc-says/

[KathrynAragon]

Apparently this is on my mind even though I don't walk around worrying about it. Last night I dreamed that I was with someone I didn't know well, but felt obligated to be magnanimous toward, if that makes sense - I don't even know who it was but it was some sort of low level government official locally. Anyway, he said, "Let's go to the flea market!" and he took my husband and me directly to an outdoor Chinese food market. And this Chinese woman came up to me, close to my face, and said "You tell me - am I contagious? AM I CONTAGIOUS?" and then she coughed in my face and I woke up.

She was an older Asian woman that I saw yesterday in Marshalls. Having lived in Japan and having several Asian relatives, I can usually tell if someone is Chinese, Korean, Filipino, or Japanese, and this woman appeared to be Chinese. I wanted to ask her "Have you been discriminated against lately?" but of course, I didn't ask her that - I didn't know her at all. But the whole uncomfortable idea of discrimination was weighing on my mind, and then that dream...ugh, unpleasant all the way around.

[txbullsfan]

I'm not to worried about the current situation in the US. The CDC and US government seem to have a good handle on things. No significant spread of confirmed cases. No deaths on US soil. The media may be sensationalizing this because it gets good clicks and in return, good ad revenue.

[Randyk47]

Originally Posted by txbullsfan

I'm not to worried about the current situation in the US. The CDC and US government seem to have a good handle on things. No significant spread of confirmed cases. No deaths on US soil. The media may be sensationalizing this because it gets good clicks and in return, good ad revenue.

True and I agree. On the other hand as a health care professional and my wife being the chief of staff of an Army medical activity I can’t help but take note of the EU and CDC health agency heads saying we have not seen the “tipping point” yet. To me that means it is going to get worse before it peaks and start to see containment.

[Lee W.]

Although the authorities did not release the name of the hospital the patient is at, it's being reported by local media. That hospital was designated by the government and they reportedly have state of the art transportation and isolation facilities. I'm sure the patient is grateful. Chinese health care is completely substandard.

[elnina]

Originally Posted by txbullsfan

I'm not to worried about the current situation in the US. The CDC and US government seem to have a good handle on things. No significant spread of confirmed cases. No deaths on US soil. The media may be sensationalizing this because it gets good clicks and in return, good ad revenue.

I agree. Use the same common sense and universal precautions as you use during a regular flu season.
News in the US tend to sensationalize events way out of proportion and exaggerate negative news.
I am reading news about the coronavirus from the EU and no one is freaking out or spreading propaganda.
When it comes to infectious disease epidemics, we have a strong tendency to overreact emotionally and behaviorally. We fear infectious disease outbreaks much more readily and intensely than we fear diabetes epidemics.
Highly alarming stories and images are circulating on social media depicting an epidemic out of control, about to overtake North America.
Netflix even just launched a (very) hastily prepared docu-series on the horrors of infectious disease epidemics (just like coronavirus).
If that isn’t a sign of the coming apocalypse, I’m not sure what is.

[WilGar]

More coming.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavir...140415452.html

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by WilGar

More coming.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavir...140415452.html

They’re Americans. They have the right to repatriate. End of story.