03-10-2009, 07:01 PM
Location: Texas
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Should any city have an MLS team?
03-10-2009, 07:46 PM
Location: Potranco/1604
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It's funny how soccer is perceived in the U.S. Very popular for kids to play, but when they become teenagers and older, the vast majority lose interest. I think it's good exercise, but that's about it. It's rather boring to watch...I'd rather watch golf. And it's no comparison at all to hockey. Hockey is way more exciting and has fights, too. 'Course I grew up in upstate NY, where you're an outcast if you don't like hockey! Go Clinton Comets (defunct since the 70's, but they were good)!!
03-10-2009, 08:36 PM
Location: Austin, TX via San Antonio, TX
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Ok, i am new to this city, and i am guessing Mr. Garza is or was the city mayor. I think that San Antonio being the 8th or 7th most populated city in the U.S. deserves at least one more sports franchise. MLS is a growing league, getting bigger than the NHL now, and it is getting harder and more expensive to acquire a tam from this league.
There was a point in time when Ed Garza tried, unsuccessfully to woo the MLS to the city. It was one of his pet projects towards the end of his second term.
If I remember correctly, we used one of our stadiums (the Alamodome) to host a few MLS games (was it the Chivas or Chivas USA?) and it was an alright event, but nothing to spectacular. It was like exhibition games that been hype and bring in a bit of money to the economy, but it wasn't a big enough boost to be a good investment for the MLS or for the city.
You'd think that with the demographics of the city we could sustain one like DFW, but I've been to a MLS game in Dallas and it wasn't all it was cracked up to be. There were some die hard fans and then the casual, well there's nothing to do tonight so let's go to the game...kind of people. I think that's how it would be in San Antonio.
03-10-2009, 09:42 PM
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Pontifikate
As much as I don't care for Hockey, MLS isn't even close to the NHL in terms of skill or popularity.
I've noticed that people's reaction towards soccer is always very positive or very negative (sometimes hateful and disrespectful)
Why compare hockey with soccer?
Should we go ahead and compare Nascar with Formula 1? football with rugby?
Any sport is boring if you don't know much about it
If narrators can make poker, cheerleading and Nascar exciting,
I don't see why they couldn't make soccer exciting.
BTW, an MLS team could easily play in the Alamo Stadium which is located right in the center of the city.
03-10-2009, 09:53 PM
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I've noticed that people's reaction towards soccer is always very positive or very negative (sometimes hateful and disrespectful)
I'm comparing the NHL with MLS not soccer as a whole. I know those Premier leagues and La Liga in Spain and the German league are all top notch. I'm not talking about those leagues, I am only talking about the MLS in America. The MLS would get destroyed by any Euro team and even some South American leaues.
03-11-2009, 07:16 AM
Location: San Antonio
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You'd think that with the demographics of the city we could sustain one like DFW, but I've been to a MLS game in Dallas and it wasn't all it was cracked up to be. There were some die hard fans and then the casual, well there's nothing to do tonight so let's go to the game...kind of people. I think that's how it would be in San Antonio.
I think FC Dallas made a big mistake by putting their soccer-specific stadium way out in the suburbs and catering to the young soccer crowd only. The Houston Dynamo are a big draw currently playing at UH's Robertson stadium just outside downtown and they will be building a soccer-specific stadium on the east side of downtown. I really think a stadium needs to cater to the city as a whole and adult soccer fans, not just the soccer mom set.
I think soccer in central SA would be as successful as soccer in suburban Dallas.
03-11-2009, 09:04 AM
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I'm comparing the NHL with MLS not soccer as a whole.
Ok, it’s that as a soccer player/fan, I’ve had to hear a lot of ……. about soccer from some people that seem to hate it with a passion. Thanks for the explanation. I would think a lot of people would support soccer in San Antonio, that’s just based on our demographics and proximity to a soccer loving country. And there’s no need to build a stadium because Alamo Stadium is perfect (size, location). I’m gonna keep an eye on the Austin Aztex (2nd division) and see how they do.
03-11-2009, 09:11 AM
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Ok, it’s that as a soccer player/fan, I’ve had to hear a lot of ……. about soccer from some people that seem to hate it with a passion. Thanks for the explanation. I would think a lot of people would support soccer in San Antonio, that’s just based on our demographics and proximity to a soccer loving country. And there’s no need to build a stadium because Alamo Stadium is perfect (size, location). I’m gonna keep an eye on the Austin Aztex (2nd division) and see how they do.
I just don't think soccer as a whole in the USA can succeed with first class leagues in Europe and South America that draw the best players in the world including some of our American guys like Landon Donovan. We need to bring the talent here so people can watch, it's like having the NBA with no Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan, Lebron James or Dwayne Wade.
03-11-2009, 09:38 AM
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I hadn't been following any of the NFL threads, but I read that the Alamodome was actually designed to be a football stadium. So why would it be impossible to have an NFL team?
03-11-2009, 09:47 AM
Location: San Antonio
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I disagree...with the large Hispanic population we have in San Antonio - Soccer is BIG! I know..I'm a parent who is busy every week with my 2 children and soccer...and forget the weekends! We spend time participating in tournaments. I agree - it's time that the nation recognizes San Antonio as a place worthy of a national sports team (in addition to the SPURS - and why not soccer (since Texas already has enough football teams)
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Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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