Worst city in the Bay Area to live in? (Oakland: unemployment, neighborhood)

[Mr. Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Radical347

But surely you know that you most of these are bigger than Oakland, yes? The murder rate is much more useful than the total # especially when the cities are different size. For a city as small as Oakland that has this many murders, it makes one of top 10 murder rates in the nation, along with Detroit, St. Louis, Baltimore and New Orleans. The last four which don't get talked about much here -- not because people think these are safe havens compared to Oakland, but simply because this is the California board, not the Michigan, Missouri, Maryland, or Louisiana boards.

Stephen doesn't understand basic statistics. Murder rate is the analytic used to determine how common murder is in a city. Oakland for the past 20 years has been in the Top 10 (a statistic I found eye opening even considering the reputation Oakland has).

As for Oakland being the worst city in the Bay Area, that's not too far a stretch. The city has one of the worst school systems in the state, high unemployment, extremely high crime, and a huge budget deficit. For people who live in Oakland, they might have gotten used to living with less, but I wouldn't recommend any clients move to Oakland, even the separated hills communities.

[The Land]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

Stephen doesn't understand basic statistics. Murder rate is the analytic used to determine how common murder is in a city. Oakland for the past 20 years has been in the Top 10 (a statistic I found eye opening even considering the reputation Oakland has).

As for Oakland being the worst city in the Bay Area, that's not too far a stretch. The city has one of the worst school systems in the state, high unemployment, extremely high crime, and a huge budget deficit. For people who live in Oakland, they might have gotten used to living with less, but I wouldn't recommend any clients move to Oakland, even the separated hills communities.

Fellow Psych ward friends are not "clients".

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

Stephen doesn't understand basic statistics. Murder rate is the analytic used to determine how common murder is in a city. Oakland for the past 20 years has been in the Top 10 (a statistic I found eye opening even considering the reputation Oakland has).

As for Oakland being the worst city in the Bay Area, that's not too far a stretch. The city has one of the worst school systems in the state, high unemployment, extremely high crime, and a huge budget deficit. For people who live in Oakland, they might have gotten used to living with less, but I wouldn't recommend any clients move to Oakland, even the separated hills communities.

How unoriginally and revoltingly predictable!

[Mr. Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

How unoriginally and revoltingly predictable!

You're telling me, there are actual people who have lived in Oakland for the past 20 years!

I would've moved out by year 2.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

You're telling me, there are actual people who have lived in Oakland for the past 20 years!

I would've moved out by year 2.

Don't act obtuse. I was referring to you and you know it.

I had cousins a couple of time removed, now dead from that natural cause called old age, who lived in Oakland Hills. Their home was lovely and the neighborhood delightful.

Oakland is far more than gang-bangers and riots! It's governance sucks but there is still a lot to recommend it.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

I had cousins a couple of time removed, now dead from that natural cause called old age, who lived in Oakland Hills. Their home was lovely and the neighborhood delightful.

Oakland is far more than gang-bangers and riots! It's governance sucks but there is still a lot to recommend it.

Isolated light usually doesn't illuminate over bearing darkness.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Don't act obtuse. I was referring to you and you know it.

I had cousins a couple of time removed, now dead from that natural cause called old age, who lived in Oakland Hills. Their home was lovely and the neighborhood delightful.

Oakland is far more than gang-bangers and riots! It's governance sucks but there is still a lot to recommend it.

+1

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

Isolated light usually doesn't illuminate over bearing darkness.

You're absolutely right because "overbearing" is all one word which any Piled h.igher and Deeper should know!

[NickB1967]

Originally Posted by mayorhaggar

Oakland is funky and urban but please don't let that sway you from trashing Oakland on the internet. Places like parts of San Jose are boring endless suburban sprawl, bleah.

Boring endless suburban sprawl--where the garbage gets picked up, the parks are clean and safe, and my fences are not vandalized, and my home is not invaded, and I am not mugged. How awful.

[The Land]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

Isolated light usually doesn't illuminate over bearing darkness.

I.E. Your brain.