I Hate San Francisco (San Diego, Sacramento: to live, store, smog)

[sav858]

Originally Posted by skyway31

I'm not sure there's much difference between much of the East Bay-take Walnut Creek, for example-and OC. The city of SF is obviously a different story. Don't know enough about San Jose and SV. Though I would wager there are commonalities between there and OC as well. It's really just SF and Berkeley that are markedly different.

There IS a difference for sure. Walnut Creek and the outer east bay is not nearly as conservative as Orange County. Yes it is probably the most "conservative" part of the Bay Area but that's not saying much. Nowhere in the Bay Area is on par with OC imo. The Walnut Creek area is more moderate and more like parts of coastal San Diego and parts of LA in terms of ideology imo. The newer parts with more gated communities like Blackhawk are probably the closest thing to OC but even then it's not quite as conservative.

[BayDude]

Originally Posted by skyway31

I'm not sure there's much difference between much of the East Bay-take Walnut Creek, for example-and OC. The city of SF is obviously a different story. Don't know enough about San Jose and SV. Though I would wager there are commonalities between there and OC as well. It's really just SF and Berkeley that are markedly different.

And Oakland as well. Those three cities are sister cities and have the same political and economic environments. All three are dominated by hardcore (and annoying) liberals.

[BayDude]

Originally Posted by sav858

There IS a difference for sure. Walnut Creek and the outer east bay is not nearly as conservative as Orange County. Yes it is probably the most "conservative" part of the Bay Area but that's not saying much. Nowhere in the Bay Area is on par with OC imo. The Walnut Creek area is more moderate and more like parts of coastal San Diego and parts of LA in terms of ideology imo. The newer parts with more gated communities like Blackhawk are probably the closest thing to OC but even then it's not quite as conservative.

Pleasanton is quite conservative actually. Livermore as well. There are some mid-size cities in the east bay with republican percentages over 30%. You'd be surprised.

I'd say the outer east bay (contra costa country) and parts of the south bay are roughly the equivalent to OC.

[NorCal Dude]

Yea that whole 680 corridor is more conservative but not nearly on the level of the OC. Placer county where I live is more like Orange county. New suburban area, with one of the largest if not the largest republican per capita out of any county in California. Moderator cut: Unnecessary/insulting

[skyway31]

Admittedly, I wasn't just comparing those places solely on political orientation. I was considering the suburban and culturally, uh, "vanilla" nature of the places.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by BayDude

And Oakland as well. Those three cities are sister cities and have the same political and economic environments. All three are dominated by hardcore (and annoying) liberals.

Wow I'm an annoying liberal, sweet! LOL That's what I love about those three cities. They dominate the Bay Area though (IMO). The only other place I've ever found that are just like them is Seattle.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by BayDude

Pleasanton is quite conservative actually. Livermore as well. There are some mid-size cities in the east bay with republican percentages over 30%. You'd be surprised.

I'd say the outer east bay (contra costa country) and parts of the south bay are roughly the equivalent to OC.

Yep, this is true. In Fact, isn't Rush Limbaugh from San Ramon?

[BayDude]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

Wow I'm an annoying liberal, sweet! LOL That's what I love about those three cities. They dominate the Bay Area though (IMO).

You know what they say, one mans trash is another mans (or womans) treasure.

Yes liberals dominate the bay area overall but they are most intense in Oakland, Berkeley and San Francisco. Out of those three cities, Oakland is probably the most disagreeable. In other parts of the bay it gets more moderate and the ultra-liberalism tapers off.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by BayDude

You know what they say, one mans trash is another mans (or womans) treasure.

Yes liberals dominate the bay area overall but they are most intense in Oakland, Berkeley and San Francisco. Out of those three, Oakland is probably the most disagreeable. In other parts of the bay it gets more moderate and the ultra-liberalism tapers off.

Why would Oakland be? Berkeley is the one known as "Bizerkley"

[BayDude]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

Why would Oakland be? Berkeley is the one known as "Bizerkley"

Largely because berkeley has the UC campus (which makes it more liberal overall) and makes it appear to be more liberal when in fact Oakland is more liberal. College towns are always liberal and that brings up the overall percentages. The higher poverty rate is also mis-represented due to lots of low income college kids there.

In reality Oakland has more poverty and is more liberal than even Berkeley is (yes its possible lol). And a way higher crime rate. If you accounted for just berkeley residents proper and not young college students who are going there for school, it'd be on par with San Francisco demographically.