Is the dating scene really that difficult for guys in Seattle? (to buy, to live)

[Finance2Tech]

Originally Posted by Belltowney

The NYer vibe (obviously a generalization) barely flies in California (I live in SF with second home in Seattle)....I can't imagine it flies at all in Seattle, especially based on the posts here. No insult intended...just seems like oil and vinegar trying to mesh the stereotypical personalities of the two areas.

It's not just the personality differences.

1. The ratio in Seattle is horrendous for straight men. NYC (especially Manhattan) has more single women than men.

2. NYC has a lot of attractive AND well-educated successful women. I'm disgusted at how low the caliber here is. Since moving here in January, I've literally seen a handful of women who I found to be attractive. In NYC I would do double takes nearly every day.

Warning to single straight men: DO NOT MOVE TO SEATTLE.

[RotseCherut]

Originally Posted by Finance2Tech

It's not just the personality differences.

1. The ratio in Seattle is horrendous for straight men. NYC (especially Manhattan) has more single women than men.

2. NYC has a lot of attractive AND well-educated successful women. I'm disgusted at how low the caliber here is. Since moving here in January, I've literally seen a handful of women who I found to be attractive. In NYC I would do double takes nearly every day.

Warning to single straight men: DO NOT MOVE TO SEATTLE.

NYC has a lot of beautiful women and there is a definite gender ratio in the favor of men. However, most women in New York city are alpha and independent females and players. Most of them are just looking for men for short term relationships and sex. This is ok with many men and I think I would probably be fine with it too. But, if you are looking for longer and more meaningful relationships New York is not the place. Women there are almost all professional and busy types or you have the other extreme of the gritty and tough women from the grittier side of the boroughs who are not so desirable for your professional metrosexual male.

Also, I find the New York accent repulsive on a women. I know it sounds crazy but it really turns me off. My entire family, including my mother and grandmother were from the East Coast and born in Brooklyn. The tough New York accent just never sounded so sweet on a lady to me. Maybe, it is because of the tough East Coast women I grew up with and anytime I hear a lady with that accent it just sends a bit of shivers down my spine. It's a voice of authority and strength, which describes the personality of many New York women who are the more dominating, alpha-female types. I tend to like women are who are a bit more gentle,easy-going and feminine/beta-ish.

Some women still are quite sexy with that New York accent, like Marisa Tomei, but I definitely would take a West Coast or Southern accent on a lady over East Coast accent.

On the contrary, I always thought East Coast accent sounded good on guys and lot of my favorite actors have that tough New York sound like Pacino, Deniro, Liotta, Keitel, Wahlberg, etc.

[Finance2Tech]

Originally Posted by RotseCherut

NYC has a lot of beautiful women and there is a definite gender ratio in the favor of men. However, most women in New York city are alpha and independent females and players. Most of them are just looking for men for short term relationships and sex. This is ok with many men and I think I would probably be fine with it too. But, if you are looking for longer and more meaningful relationships New York is not the place. Women there are almost all professional and busy types or you have the other extreme of the gritty and tough women from the grittier side of the boroughs who are not so desirable for your professional metrosexual male.

Also, I find the New York accent repulsive on a women. I know it sounds crazy but it really turns me off. My entire family, including my mother and grandmother were from the East Coast and born in Brooklyn. The tough New York accent just never sounded so sweet on a lady to me. Maybe, it is because of the tough East Coast women I grew up with and anytime I hear a lady with that accent it just sends a bit of shivers down my spine. It's a voice of authority and strength, which describes the personality of many New York women who are the more dominating, alpha-female types. I tend to like women are who are a bit more gentle,easy-going and feminine/beta-ish.

Some women still are quite sexy with that New York accent, like Marisa Tomei, but I definitely would take a West Coast or Southern accent on a lady over East Coast accent.

On the contrary, I always thought East Coast accent sounded good on guys and lot of my favorite actors have that tough New York sound like Pacino, Deniro, Liotta, Keitel, Wahlberg, etc.

Well I'm not looking for marriage, so the NYC scene works out well for me. I love the fact that NYC has women who are both attractive and successful. Killer combo. In contrast, lot of the women in Seattle are granola Bernie loving socialist types or have mediocre education and jobs.

As for the accent, most women in Manhattan are transplants. The accent is true for natives raised in the outer boroughs.

[homesinseattle]

Rotse, not to sound elitist (because you know I'm an evil progressive ) but haven't you found that NYC women and people in general from there tend to have less or more of an accent depending on their educational level? It seems like many people (same goes in the South where I hail from) intentionally train that out of themselves (so they won't be judged) either by strong family of origin suggestion growing up or their own linguistic evolution later on. I lost my "y'all" very quickly when I went to university in Vermont, now it quickly comes back when I visit my hometown, Miami. Yeah, I agree, a harsh Long Guyland/Joysee accent can kill an attraction pretty fast, though I would argue that a strong Boston accent is even worse of a buzz kill. I dated a woman many years ago from Newburyport, coastal town north of Boston. She was great but the accent I think is truly what killed things for me, like fingernails on a chalkboard.

[SeattleCat]

I haven't read through all of the posts on here, but I was single for about ten years (from my mid-thirties to mid-forties a couple of years ago) and was basically able to get dates when I wanted. I personally didn't find it too difficult. Finding a long term relationship took longer (and it should), but I found that if you were friendly, just talked to women, and wasn't a jerk then it wasn't too tough.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by SeattleCat

I haven't read through all of the posts on here, but I was single for about ten years (from my mid-thirties to mid-forties a couple of years ago) and was basically able to get dates when I wanted. I personally didn't find it too difficult. Finding a long term relationship took longer (and it should), but I found that if you were friendly, just talked to women, and wasn't a jerk then it wasn't too tough.

This. The guys who are friendly and outgoing clean up, because most of the guys are too reserved, or are socially awkward. Dating in a city where the men are too reticent is like shooting fish in a barrel for the guys who are outgoing. And IDK about "mediocre education"; there are quite a few women at the universities in town who are highly educated and pretty interesting people, but they seem to be invisible to Seattle men, generally.

[josie13]

Originally Posted by lostsoul2015

apologies but completely disagree (with respect) with hellopity.

I see how much excuses are being made for women and how far people go to make excuses and use bandaids to justify the behavior. Please accept and understand the truth - it's about time!! Let's not fool or kid ourselves here. It is a big problem in Seattle and I moved here a few months ago from Europe.

It's all about lifestyle choices now (gays/***** etc...) and that's totally fine but what about for the "average" straight guy who has strong integrity/morals/ethics, works hard, is genuine and real etc... ? Nothing for them! No one cares. We are a lost breed/cause it seems

Please "accept and understand the truth:" The women of Seattle do no owe you anything. You are not entitled to their time, their smiles, or their attention by default. "Nothing for [you]" is the universal starting point. Anything more than that, you must win by being winning. By "winning," I mean your being noticeably kind, interesting, funny, cheerful, or intelligent as you move through the world.

Work on that.

[VJUSMC]

These dating threads crack me up. I have been here for over a year and a half I am married and no longer on the searching for that special someone. With that being said I believe Seattle would be a great place to meet someone I see beautiful people everywhere I go. If you aren't getting dates or meeting people don't blame the location maybe re thing your strategy remember the definition of insanity. If I were single I am pretty certain I could thrive in Seattle.

[thatguy950]

Originally Posted by josie13

Please "accept and understand the truth:" The women of Seattle do no owe you anything. You are not entitled to their time, their smiles, or their attention by default. "Nothing for [you]" is the universal starting point. Anything more than that, you must win by being winning. By "winning," I mean your being noticeably kind, interesting, funny, cheerful, or intelligent as you move through the world.

Work on that.

Yes but women, even glow-less whales, are entitled to millionaire Chad. Just lol

[Finance2Tech]

Originally Posted by josie13

Please "accept and understand the truth:" The women of Seattle do no owe you anything. You are not entitled to their time, their smiles, or their attention by default. "Nothing for [you]" is the universal starting point. Anything more than that, you must win by being winning. By "winning," I mean your being noticeably kind, interesting, funny, cheerful, or intelligent as you move through the world.

Work on that.

I agree with this. Women owe men nothing. And men also owe women nothing. Do not expect a man to buy you drinks or a man to hold the door for you. Everyone should be treated equally; after all, that is what modern feminism is about.