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Ovcatto, You otter try a google search on all hand guns. That list is some wicked long..... Just the one for Cali wag O' Fornia as what's legal and what isn't is so long it's hard to believe.
Yes. Requiring a form of service in order to exercise a Constitutional right is an unacceptable infringement.
I didn't explain the concept well enough. What if the community service (which required that the individual muster with a well regulated militia) was a form of alternative sentencing, available to individuals who keep and bear Arms, for an infraction of the law that would otherwise require some more traditional form of community service or fine?
The right to bear arms does not have strings attached (unless you happen to be a felon). BY DESIGN.
I didn't explain the concept well enough. Would you object to community service (which required that the individual muster with a well regulated militia) as a form of alternative sentencing for individuals who keep and bear Arms, in lieu of more traditional forms of community service or a fine for infractions of the law?
I didn't explain the concept well enough. What if the community service (which required that the individual muster with a well regulated militia) was a form of alternative sentencing, available to individuals who keep and bear Arms, for an infraction of the law that would otherwise require some more traditional form of community service or fine?
You're still suggesting gun owners be singled out for unusual punishment.
What's wrong with actually adhering to the words "Shall Not Be Infringed"?
I didn't explain the concept well enough. What if the community service (which required that the individual muster with a well regulated militia) was a form of alternative sentencing, available to individuals who keep and bear Arms, for an infraction of the law that would otherwise require some more traditional form of community service or fine?
You still haven't. I am befuddled past any idea of any meaning.
Are you talking about felons earning a Right back to be able to pay for their crimes and so return to legal fire arm ownership?
Are you talking some small misdomener infraction, and then serve in miliita training of some sort, as means of paying debt to society, by an other wise non-gun owner?
Or is it you are accusing gun owners of a crime because they breath air and own guns? Like I said I am lost. Try this idea for the begining in a new post on this thread.
You're still suggesting gun owners be singled out for unusual punishment.
What's wrong with actually adhering to the words "Shall Not Be Infringed"?
Why would anyone consider a person who keeps and bears Arms having to muster and participate in a well regulated militia, be a form of unusual punishment? It could simply be an option that better conforms to our Second Amendment.
You still haven't. I am befuddled past any idea of any meaning.
Are you talking about felons earning a Right back to be able to pay for their crimes and so return to legal fire arm ownership?
Are you talking some small misdomener infraction, and then serve in miliita training of some sort, as means of paying debt to society, by an other wise non-gun owner?
Or is it you are accusing gun owners of a crime because they breath air and own guns? Like I said I am lost. Try this idea for the begining in a new post on this thread.
What if it were an option available to individuals who keep and bear Arms?
Why would anyone consider a person who keeps and bears Arms having to muster and participate in a well regulated militia, be a form of unusual punishment? It could simply be an option that better conforms to our Second Amendment.
In what way does this absurd notion better conform to the Second Amendment? How is requiring some form of servitude in order to exercise a Constitutional right not an undue restriction or punishment? How is your earlier suggestion of service as alternative sentencing not some type of punishment?
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Originally Posted by danielpalos
What if it were an option available to individuals who keep and bear Arms?
The option for service already exists with the military.
As an aside how is your question of alternative sentencing for gun owners in any way on topic with the OP of this thread?
Why would anyone consider a person who keeps and bears Arms having to muster and participate in a well regulated militia, be a form of unusual punishment? It could simply be an option that better conforms to our Second Amendment.
You do realize that if you are male, 17 to 45 years of age you are already part of the United States reserve militia (10 USC 311). You're also part of the reserve militia if you are a veteran and are under 64 years of age, or if you are female and a member of the nasty girls. You are exempt if you're a foreign national and have not stated an intent to become a citizen (but you are eligible for the draft), work for the mail or other reserved occupations (10 USC 312).
In Alaska all able bodied men aged over 17 and who are eligible for serving in the military are also part of the state militia.
It's not anyone's problem that no one has mustered the Militia in about 150 years or so. Certainly not since the Militia Act of 1903. Go write your representatives and ask them to order a congressional general muster if you feel strongly enough about it.
Why do we not conscript everyone who cooks at home into the food service industry?
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