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Old 06-21-2018, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Guess how all YOUR goods and labor underwrite CONgress' bad debt.
Remember, no American government can take PRIVATE PROPERTY for public use without paying JUST COMPENSATION. Ergo, no government can arbitrarily claim ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY without incurring an impossible obligation.
OR
There is no more private property - abolished, thanks to FICA.

From the Communist manifesto: "In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."
https://www.marxists.org/archive/mar...ist-manifesto/

Those who are advancing the People's Democratic Socialist Republic of America do not appreciate any resistance from those who intend to survive the coming upheavals.
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Old 06-21-2018, 09:59 AM
 
Location: rural south west UK
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whats that got to do with the OP.?
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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whats that got to do with the OP.?
Nothing, but that's the same thing that he posts as an answer to everything.
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Old 06-23-2018, 12:10 AM
 
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I guess I am a far-left, liberal libertarian. I am a progressive because I believe in healthcare being affordable for all, that any adult should be allowed to marry any adult, andwhthat the United States needs to stop meddling in other countries' business. I am libertarian because I do not believe that the government should "protect" us from living the way we feel is right or best for our families. I am also a "short term prepper."

I am only prepping for short term because youngest son, who is very ill, could never take care of himself. I have cancer and husband is in the early stages of Alzheimers. I won't go into the specifics, but I am only prepped for short term, which includes a way for us all to leave this world peacefully when we are all too ill to function.

One thing I have done, for after we are no longer here, is I have made a letter for whoever stumbles across our homestead after we are dead. In this letter, if there is still ammo, it says where it is stored, where guns and meds and other food, including seeds and how to plant them are. Also where on the property to find the perrenial plants [rhubarb, asparagus, strawberries, blueberries, rasppberries, blackberries, apple trees] plus so much more. So, I guess I am a prepper more for the generations after us.

I think most people are wary of preppers because most people are averse to the truth of any potential threats on their tidy little worlds. It is so much easier to laugh at and deride others than to have to face some pretty horrible possibilities [actually probabilities] do not think most peoples negative reactions are a "liberal" thing as much as a "people" thing.
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Old 06-23-2018, 03:26 AM
 
Location: rural south west UK
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I think most people are wary of preppers because most people are averse to the truth of any potential threats on their tidy little worlds.
its called "normalcy bias" A.K.A. "head in the sand".
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Old 06-25-2018, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Southern Colorado
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I have a somewhat dark mind that feels comfortable with morbid thoughts. It wasn't that way prior to 9/11 interestingly enough. I'd be better off if I didn't worry. I think worry gives people a predilection for prepping. They are worried that disaster may strike.

People feel more comfortable thinking that everything is rosy. Pretty sure that optimists are happier than pessimists.
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Old 06-26-2018, 06:03 AM
 
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I have a somewhat dark mind that feels comfortable with morbid thoughts. It wasn't that way prior to 9/11 interestingly enough. I'd be better off if I didn't worry. I think worry gives people a predilection for prepping. They are worried that disaster may strike.

People feel more comfortable thinking that everything is rosy. Pretty sure that optimists are happier than pessimists.

I tend to consider myself much more optimistic than pessimistic. I usually feel fairly pragmatic in the way I look at the world.

I try to base my decisions on logic, information, personal observations, future expectations etc.
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Old 06-26-2018, 06:33 AM
 
Location: rural south west UK
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there was a guy on one of the prepper forums who used to say " I live in the here and now", makes me wonder what he was doing on that forum, I always suspected he was a troll and just there to take the wee-wee, same with anyone who says "nothing will happen, nothing will change", if nothing ever changed we'd still be living in caves and wearing animal skins.
change is a fact of life but that dosent mean its always going to be for the better, better to "prepare for the worst and hope for the best" than to just assume everything will always be rosy, for instance WW1 and WW2, the Vietnam War and 9/11, nobody for a minute thought they were peachy.


By failing to prepare you are preparing to fail.

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Old 06-26-2018, 04:34 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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I have a somewhat dark mind that feels comfortable with morbid thoughts. It wasn't that way prior to 9/11 interestingly enough. I'd be better off if I didn't worry. I think worry gives people a predilection for prepping. They are worried that disaster may strike.
I was burning some burgers in the back yard on 9/12, and enjoying the peace and quiet. Wondering why everyone was so surprised. I had been watching disaster after disaster for years, and watching Al Quada hit us, on average, every 18 months. I started telling people in 1996 "If you aren't recovering from a disaster, you need to be getting ready for the next one, and it will be like this for a few decades."

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People feel more comfortable thinking that everything is rosy. Pretty sure that optimists are happier than pessimists.
I am a happy pessimist.

When things go well, I say: "That went better than expected!"
When things go badly, I say: "Told ya so!"
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Old 06-27-2018, 04:56 AM
 
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Prepping is just like anything else in life.

You look at events and do your own analysis. Once you have reached a conclusion that an event is likely enough that you should be concerned enough to do something about it, you invest and try to protect yourself to hedge the risk.

I make the analogy I don't plan to have my house burn down, a tree fall on my house, get into a car crash, and up in the hospital...but I realize even though I don't expect those things to happen I realize that it's a real risk of happening and much of it is out of my control. So I buy insurance.

For retirement, I'm still young but one day I want to retire. Maybe social security will be there for me, maybe I won't. In the mean time I want to protect myself and prepare for as many outcomes as possible so I am investing on my own in case I will not have any additional retirement from the government.

Prepping is exactly the same concept.
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