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Old 11-24-2021, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Then why the tactical armored vest and multiple weapon rig to stand at the exit? But I do agree he is just a scarecrow with a weapon
As a deterrence and to stop people who assault store employees or damage the store. If you intended to run in the store and steal wouldn't you think twice if you saw one of those guards?
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Old 11-24-2021, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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As a deterrence and to stop people who assault store employees or damage the store. If you intended to run in the store and steal wouldn't you think twice if you saw one of those guards?
Didn't think once before the Tide went under security glass and the gunman arrived. Thieves are going to steal and folks who don't believe you are going to shoot will attack a rifle armed man with a skateboard
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Old 11-25-2021, 04:51 AM
 
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Shop owners could make donations to the local criminal organizations. Then if robbed, these organizations would track down some of the robbers and discipline them much in the same manner that drug lords do in Mexico. If they get a few of the robbers wrong, so what, an example was made.

The point is made in this video at the 2:53 mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f-jzGNpUmo
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Old 11-25-2021, 07:04 AM
 
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California downgraded shoplifting merchandise less than $950 to a misdemeanor. Stores and police don't bother with it any longer.

Then you have the whole movement to eliminate cash bail as it's considered racist and especially punitive to minority women (according to Biden's proposal last year). That worked out real well with the lunatic that plowed through the Christmas parade in Wisconsin. Now everyone's crying that he was released on only $1,000 bail.
What does it cost the taxpayer to send a LEO and a car to investigate shop lifting or a theft from a retail establishment? What if the thief is caught, jailed, let out on bail, given a tax payer provided lawyer when they appear in court. What does all that cost the taxpayer?

Due to a lawsuit regarding bail and indigent people my county judges have released all kinds of previously convicted criminals. The bail bondsmen are complaining about going out of business. The bail bondsmen are now taking 2%, paid over time. So now when a payment is due, they steal again.

IDK what the answer is. Maybe ago back to 3 strikes and you are kept in jail.
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Old 11-25-2021, 07:14 AM
 
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how can the police not have informants who would know 80 people are conspiring to loot Nordstrom on the same day?
It is well organised,they loot and they get into a car with driver to take them away.
I bet most of the merchandise will show up on Ebay.
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Old 11-25-2021, 07:18 AM
 
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It is happening everywhere,in South Africa,they robbed food stores and stores nearby,one carried a bicycle,he said you cant eat the bicycle,but you can sell them to buy food.
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Old 11-25-2021, 07:27 AM
 
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how can the police not have informants who would know 80 people are conspiring to loot Nordstrom on the same day?
It is well organised,they loot and they get into a car with driver to take them away.
I bet most of the merchandise will show up on Ebay.
Well if burglary was not considered a higher priority crime for enforcement and the Districts Attorney did not prosecute why would an officer have informants and why would they informant take the risk. Perhaps if they thought some shot caller was taking his cut from the 80 thieves and paying his taxes back to the bigger boss in Sicily, Russia or Albania the police would be trying to get informants into more controlled organizations.
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Old 11-25-2021, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Unlike most on CD, I'm not afraid to give my location: Milwaukee, WI.
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The only thing I can come up with is that the outside-facing windows and doors all be made of unbreakable "glass" material, and that inside the store, employees right up front have buttons that can be pushed to electrically lock all the doors the second looters start entering. Some may even be kept out. Someone then calls 911 ASAP, and hopefully cops come quickly with the perps that made it in trapped inside, before they realize they're locked in and *possibly* engage in gratuitous violence against employees or patrons. That's where just having one good armed security guard might buy time.

Damn shame we even have to be thinking about this, and that the retailers would need to shell out all that money to deal with this latest societal dysfunction.
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Old 11-25-2021, 09:07 AM
 
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not when the store is open for business.
Change the entrance to security doors/glass, use rolling hurricane shutters on the windows.?
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Old 11-25-2021, 09:24 AM
 
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Change the entrance to security doors/glass, use rolling hurricane shutters on the windows.?

Does anyone remember the "Koreans on Rooftops" during the Rodney King riots that were defending their property?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBcYaR4M_w8
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