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Old 07-28-2013, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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It is really pathetic that we allow our citizens to get this low.
In this country, you reap what you sow. What happens to you is a result of your own actions or non-action.
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Old 07-28-2013, 03:06 PM
 
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In this country, you reap what you sow. What happens to you is a result of your own actions or non-action.
Simply not true. When a company folds, it is not the employee's fault, its the upper management's fault, or CEO. How many CEO's that have folded their businesses do you see being homeless in South Tampa?

Someone who's always going to be an employee, (because not all people come from trust funds to have capital readily available to them to start their own businesses) is always going to have to depend on someone else for employment, hence money to eat, and have a roof over their heads. If the company folds, and they haven't made enough money to have solid savings, then they will become homeless.

I this country homelessness is actually encouraged. Less people on welfare, less for CEO's to have to pay to do a job. 1% versus 99%.

More here:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclus...175906005.html

and a great one here:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/econo...e-poverty.html

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Old 07-28-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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We aren't talking about individuals. We're talking about a group. To discuss a group's behavior, you have to make assumptions and generalizations.

Put another way: Should we start a separate City Data thread for each individual homeless person in the Tampa Bay area? That seems like it would be a waste of resources.
I didn't say that. I didn't a "group" in ST doing drugs together...I saw "individuals", even in Carrollwood with signs that read "Iraq vet"...I don't see them begging in groups. And no, we don't need a thread to discuss them individually, my point was that you don't know where each one of them is coming from, and what was in their past. Making judgements on people you don't know is rude. I don't judge them; but I would like to see someone rehab them.

There are a lot of money in South Tampa alone; the problem is that most of it is spent on fake boobs!
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Old 07-28-2013, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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How many here have been homeless so they can talk about this from that point of view?
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Old 07-28-2013, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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In this country, you reap what you sow. What happens to you is a result of your own actions or non-action.
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Simply not true. When a company folds, it is not the employee's fault, its the upper management's fault, or CEO. How many CEO's that have folded their businesses do you see being homeless in South Tampa?

Which company do you suppose laid off these gentlemen?

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Old 07-28-2013, 05:40 PM
 
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Which company do you suppose laid off these gentlemen?
At anytime there about 16k homeless people in the tampa area. Do you think they all look like that, fit that profile, no they are families, veterans, people with substance abuse problems, mental illnesses, lbgt teenagers who were kicked out of their homes or ran away. For every 25 yo with tatoos there are 5 families sleeping in cars, trying to scrape enough money for a week to week hotel room. That picture is might be face of homelessness to you but is no way representative of their true population.
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Old 07-28-2013, 05:48 PM
 
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Which company do you suppose laid off these gentlemen?

I don't know; but next time I or anyone else sees them why don't we ask them that?

I highly doubt they've been living in the streets since birth.
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Old 07-28-2013, 05:51 PM
 
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Which company do you suppose laid off these gentlemen?

BTW...There are plenty to heavily tattooed CEOs out there too.
Here's one:
Jesse James (customizer) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(Or any other running a Tattoo shop! FYI)

Last I knew, the homeless don't make a lot of money...or have credentials to rent decent apartments.
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Old 07-28-2013, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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At anytime there about 16k homeless people in the tampa area. Do you think they all look like that, fit that profile, no they are families, veterans, people with substance abuse problems, mental illnesses, lbgt teenagers who were kicked out of their homes or ran away. For every 25 yo with tatoos there are 5 families sleeping in cars, trying to scrape enough money for a week to week hotel room. That picture is might be face of homelessness to you but is no way representative of their true population.
These people are representative of most of the transient people I see in STP and Tampa parks and who the new ordinances are geared toward. Public urination, defecation.....700 of them that the Tampa police has had to chronically deal with.

http://tbo.com/news/politics/tampa-a...less-20130627/

But according to some in this thread, we as a country have failed them. We don't offer enough amenities and handouts for them. I disagree.

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Old 07-28-2013, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Treasure Island Fl
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Anyone that thinks these people are just down on their luck, should try offering one $10 to come to your house and mow your lawn.
Let me know how many you ask before you find one to say yes!
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