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I've had some really good teachers, and some really bad ones. The good ones were ones who had set rules, made no exceptions, and held everyone to the same standard - you knew what to expect. The bad ones were disorganized, pandered to this or that student, and changed their requirements almost daily. Yet I would never even have thought of humiliating them in such a manner - one merely took their classes and survived. When students did things to teachers, they were instantly expelled - like the one who soaked an art teacher's brand new fake-fur coat in india ink and left it on her chair, dripping. Of course now the kids are praised for their innovation, counseled for the abuse that they incite, and the teachers are fired. This makes sense how?
Wow. This is not one I was prepared for. Unfortunately, we all have bad days and situations we don't handle well. I've yelled at classes before, I've had the principal come in and yell at them. I hope I was never filmed. Such footage would not show what happened to cause the situation. Unfortunately, some kids like to see how far they can push things. I've come to the conclusion that teachers need cameras in their rooms for their own protection. Maybe these kids need to be filmed and have it sent to their parents.
One more reason to get out of teaching. The power kids have today to ruin carreers and lives is scary. It's not worth the risk. The best of us have bad days.
This teacher may have been prone to blowing his top and screaming at his class every now and then. After a while, the trouble makers learned how to push his buttons on purpose...Nice.
Just another reason to have a no cellphone rule in the classroom. I'm sure that students wouldn't want to have their awkward oral presentations broadcast over Youtube, either.
I'm sure that students wouldn't want to have their awkward oral presentations broadcast over Youtube, either.
Good idea but then some parents would sue for invasion of privacy---probably the very parents of students who would post a breakdown. I admire teachers so much today. They have so much more to deal with than we ever had back in the day.
I have another perspective on this. Teachers have always lost their tempers. That's nothing new. I'm sure if I had to deal with as many kids as they do, I'd lose my temper as well. The earliest time I can remember a teacher behaving in a way that just seemed out of control was when I was in second grade...the teacher was screaming and chasing a little boy around the classroom, then dragged him out and they disappeared for a while. I remember how scary that was. It happened a lot more in high school...teachers would scream and throw erasers, or cuss at us. And that was at an expensive private school, in the honors classes, where we certainly behaved better than kids do in my children's classes. I don't remember a teacher ever getting in any kind of trouble for it.
I think the only new thing here is that kids have a little bit more protection. They have the option to pull out a cell phone and start recording the incident. They have the ability to share the recording with the world. I don't think the kids are baiting the teachers any more than they ever have--and yes, some kids are irritating and they push people to see what happens. But there have always been kids like that.
Good idea but then some parents would sue for invasion of privacy---probably the very parents of students who would post a breakdown. I admire teachers so much today. They have so much more to deal with than we ever had back in the day.
A kid who would stoop to humiliate their teacher like that probably wouldn't think twice about doing the same thing to a peer.
Good idea but then some parents would sue for invasion of privacy---probably the very parents of students who would post a breakdown. I admire teachers so much today. They have so much more to deal with than we ever had back in the day.
I wonder if the teacher can sue. Legally, I believe, you need someone's permission to post a video of them. Given that parents are responsible for the actions of their children, especially if their name is on that cell phone bill, I'd think that the teacher in question would have legal grounds to sue the parents for defamation of character, posting video of him without permission and invasion of privacy.
I have another perspective on this. Teachers have always lost their tempers. That's nothing new. I'm sure if I had to deal with as many kids as they do, I'd lose my temper as well. The earliest time I can remember a teacher behaving in a way that just seemed out of control was when I was in second grade...the teacher was screaming and chasing a little boy around the classroom, then dragged him out and they disappeared for a while. I remember how scary that was. It happened a lot more in high school...teachers would scream and throw erasers, or cuss at us. And that was at an expensive private school, in the honors classes, where we certainly behaved better than kids do in my children's classes. I don't remember a teacher ever getting in any kind of trouble for it.
I think the only new thing here is that kids have a little bit more protection. They have the option to pull out a cell phone and start recording the incident. They have the ability to share the recording with the world. I don't think the kids are baiting the teachers any more than they ever have--and yes, some kids are irritating and they push people to see what happens. But there have always been kids like that.
I agree. A teacher losing it sounds like a teacher who wasn't ready for the kinds of students she was responsible for.
In the article, I read that one teacher was throwing chairs because the students wouldn't stop talking. If the teacher does not have administrative support to enforce a rule for this, the teacher should reach out for help in dealing with chatty students.
It might mean one day lost for teaching a lesson for that particular group of students and then coming in the next day and trying something different. I would rather have that than having my child yelled at or hit by a chair.
I'm moving this to Education, because it is not really a Parenting topic.
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