Why is it that Houston seems to have more of an "energetic vibe" than Dallas? (Early: moving, train)

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by oil capital

Just to educate the clueless on this board, the following MLB ballparks are very much in the central city/CBD

Chase Field - Phoenix
Busch Stadium - Saint Louis
Comerica Park - Detroit
Coors Field - Denver
Great American Ballpark - Cincinnati
Minute Maid Park - Houston
Oriole Park at Camden Yards - Baltimore
Petco Park - San Diego
PNC Park - Pittsburgh
Progressive Field - Cleveland
Rogers Centre - Toronto
Target Field - Minneapolis

Kansas City and Tampa Bay are planning moves to downtown stadiums and a number of others are in very urban locations, while not technically downtown or CBD (think Wrigley Field, Fenway Park).

ok....I never said Houston was the only team... we have 18 more teams that opted out....

1000 people stole Jordans off the train passing through South Dallas...Just because more than one person did it doesn't mean it was the right thing to do...


My point still stands

[SanJac]

Originally Posted by Redlionjr

You have these 4 homes that look like mini versions of The Paint Ladies of San Francisco. This is in the Heights. As much as I like the Heights and I truly do, why can't it be streets lined up like this in the Heights? Me and my Family went walking in that area a couple of months ago and the walk to some of the restaurants in White Oak are not pedestrian friendly. Thank God the trail is there, we were able to walk from Juiceland to Stude Park smoothly on the trail but walking to Juiceland outside of the trail was a bit chaotic even in a neighborhood like the Heights.

So sidewalks and crosswalks is not good enough for you? Would you like a red carpet? Should we close off the streets for you?

What you want is manufactured walkability in a sterile environment. You don’t want a true urban, gritty, organic environment. That’s why you like Dallas’ walkable areas better than Houston. They are much closer to that Disneyland/Disney-world feel that you seem to be craving for.

Why don’t you see streets in the Heights lined with townhomes? Actually there are plenty of those type of streets but the Heights is a neighborhood filled with craftsman-era bungalows. That’s the true soul of the Heights. Unfortunately they are slowly being torn down and replaced with Victorian-era replica mansions.

[atadytic19]

Originally Posted by SanJac

So sidewalks and crosswalks is not good enough for you? Would you like a red carpet? Should we close off the streets for you?

What you want is manufactured walkability in a sterile environment. You don’t want a true urban, gritty, organic environment. That’s why you like Dallas’ walkable areas better than Houston. They are much closer to that Disneyland/Disney-world feel that you seem to be craving for.

Why don’t you see streets in the Heights lined with townhomes? Actually there are plenty of those type of streets but the Heights is a neighborhood filled with craftsman-era bungalows. That’s the true soul of the Heights. Unfortunately they are slowly being torn down and replaced with Victorian-era replica mansions.

Right? The heights is what it is. It is a former street car suburb. And it has its charms. Sad that they are being lost

If he wants townhome line streets then here:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/3nuxpWkXLAwSNepE9

https://maps.app.goo.gl/bLdA7vrCHEJhPses8

https://maps.app.goo.gl/7X34u3iiDh8VADAA8

https://maps.app.goo.gl/frDNAiWDph697RT49

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by SanJac

So sidewalks and crosswalks is not good enough for you? Would you like a red carpet? Should we close off the streets for you?

What you want is manufactured walkability in a sterile environment. You don’t want a true urban, gritty, organic environment. That’s why you like Dallas’ walkable areas better than Houston. They are much closer to that Disneyland/Disney-world feel that you seem to be craving for.

Why don’t you see streets in the Heights lined with townhomes? Actually there are plenty of those type of streets but the Heights is a neighborhood filled with craftsman-era bungalows. That’s the true soul of the Heights. Unfortunately they are slowly being torn down and replaced with Victorian-era replica mansions.

No what he wants are areas completely designated for this style of living....Like the "State Thomas Area" of Dallas

[SanJac]

Originally Posted by atadytic19

Right? The heights is what it is. It is a former street car suburb. And it has its charms. Sad that they are being lost

If he wants townhome line streets then here:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/3nuxpWkXLAwSNepE9

https://maps.app.goo.gl/bLdA7vrCHEJhPses8

https://maps.app.goo.gl/7X34u3iiDh8VADAA8

https://maps.app.goo.gl/frDNAiWDph697RT49

Here’s some Heights townhomes. He likes the SF look…
https://maps.app.goo.gl/7yuLEMtxehNZhgcG9?g_st=ic

https://maps.app.goo.gl/YxEzCpEhjFaqWQKz6?g_st=ic

[DaBears02]

Originally Posted by dallasboi

No what he wants are areas completely designated for this style of living....Like the "State Thomas Area" of Dallas

Ironically one of the pictures you posted is actually in Midtown Houston

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by DaBears02

Ironically one of the pictures you posted is actually in Midtown Houston

ok....It was under the State Thomas search...Fast clip....it happens...





It still doesn't change my point!!

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by dallasboi

...Nice try!!!


Which of the two has better/urban downtown? Dallas or Houston?
https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comme...wntown_dallas/

first comment: From a Houstonian



...From a NYer that moved here...



11 Differences Between Houston and Dallas That Always Cause Arguments
https://matadornetwork.com/read/11-d...ns%20of%20dogs.








Just for fun:

People knew this way back in 1978

Dallas is better than Houston...Texas Monthly...A STATE Magazine that I thought Hated Dallas
https://www.texasmonthly.com/being-t...-than-houston/



Damn..... Frank????!!!!

Difference between Dallas and Houston
https://propertyclub.nyc/article/dal...20and%20modern.


...Make sure to look at the results..


Dallas vs. Houston: What's the difference?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dallas/comm...he_difference/



Dallas vs Houston: Which City Should You Visit?
https://www.lonestartravelguide.com/dallas-vs-houston/

Just a re-Cap of Houstonians opinion
https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comme...wntown_dallas/


#1

Most outsiders aren't aware, but Houston has a pedestrian tunnel system downtown that goes on for miles, that is basically its own underground city. Full of restaurants and shops that fill up with downtown workers during the week. This is why our downtown streets looks so empty during work hours.

#2

Stayed downtown Hou near convention center last week and it was totally walkable to several restaurants at night. That encampment under the freeway is gone and there’s security cruising around on golf carts. Sooo Houston.

...Oh is that what makes it better......sounds BORING!!!

#1 AGAIN

Houston has a pedestrian tunnel system that runs throughout downtown. Comes in super clutch during the summers, where you can have your choice of hundreds of restaurants without ever stepping foot outside. It's easily my favorite thing about downtown.

https://www.downtownhouston.org/dist...ntown-tunnels/

The tunnels are not an asset!..The Houstonian Mentality is what needs to change.

#3

On virtually every level I prefer Houston to Dallas, but Dallas's best feature is their downtown and Houston's is just offices during the day and ghost town at night.

#4

To be fair, places you can eat are busy downtown on the weekends there. It's is pretty empty though.

#5

Go to Dallas. Houston has its places, but downtown is mostly just buildings. By the ball fields, Rice, The parks, restaurants. Not downtown.

#6

I lived in both cities, but I always thought Houston was a total ****show.

#7

unfortunately dallas

#8

Both cities have awful public transportation; unfriendly high speed streets; Mentally ill, drug users, and homeless wandering around; and above 100 degrees heat. They both suck.

But Dallas’ sucks a little less.

hmmm...Hey LocalPlanner...Is this the same downtown you were promising that EVERYBODY knew was better than Downtown Dallas?...These are ALL Houstonians commenting this stuff!!!!

[Hankrigby]

Originally Posted by michaeltx9412

We all know both cities are nearly identical in almost any category/department we could think of. There have been tons of discussions on this matter, but there's one difference that I notice about Houston that is relatively less pronounced in Dallas, and that's "energy." It's actually kind of hard for me to come up with the exact word to describe it. We all also probably agree that the amount of pedestrian traffic in both cities are about the same.

I want to know what exactly makes Houston to have more of that energetic vibe compared to Dallas when neither of the two is particularly more dense or has visibly more foot traffic than the other? I'd love to hear your opinions!

Less upper crust types in Houston. Seems more blue caller too.

[godrestores]

Originally Posted by SanJac

So sidewalks and crosswalks is not good enough for you? Would you like a red carpet? Should we close off the streets for you?

What you want is manufactured walkability in a sterile environment. You don’t want a true urban, gritty, organic environment. That’s why you like Dallas’ walkable areas better than Houston. They are much closer to that Disneyland/Disney-world feel that you seem to be craving for.

Why don’t you see streets in the Heights lined with townhomes? Actually there are plenty of those type of streets but the Heights is a neighborhood filled with craftsman-era bungalows. That’s the true soul of the Heights. Unfortunately they are slowly being torn down and replaced with Victorian-era replica mansions.

Based on that link he posted, it seems like one of his issues is Houston's lack of a more solid grid, which doesn't make sense to me either. A city so flat needs all of those pointlessly wide, meandering streets for what?