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I think Nedra wrote the note and Patsy may have been drugged that night,leading her to wake up in same clothes.
She didn't "wake up in the same clothes." She put on what she had worn the night before because their flight was leaving early for Michigan, JR was in the shower, her shower was apparently not working, and they were in a hurry to get to the airport.
I read that the housekeeper could have written a book either way and got money for it. She was an insider so no matter if she said Patsy was not guilty or that she was guilty, it would have been a profitable book.
That was always my theory way back when this first happened.
Patsy, tired and stressed, JB wets the bed, yet again, Patsy smacks her and JB cracks her skull against the tub, toilet or sink.
An accident, but still something Patsy would likely end up in jail for, hence the cover up.
And really, it would have served no purpose for Patsy to be jailed.
It wouldn't bring JB back from the dead and the trial and imprisonment of his mother would have been horrible for Burke to endure on top of losing his sister.
If this is what happened, I am sure Patsy suffered horribly enough from guilt, let alone from the cancer that would soon take her life.
And......if this is what happened, John should leave a confession to be opened after his death. It would at least clear Burke, once and for all, of any suspicions that he may have killed his sister.
I have always thought, there was some kind of an accident. The Ramseys covered up the whole tragic event. My thought was that the dad was caught molesting Jon bonet, and mom lost it. Hitting the child instead of the old man. Tragic end to a life, and then Burke's suffering over the years. Will we ever know what happened that Christmas eve so long ago??
I have always thought, there was some kind of an accident. The Ramseys covered up the whole tragic event. My thought was that the dad was caught molesting Jon bonet, and mom lost it. Hitting the child instead of the old man. Tragic end to a life, and then Burke's suffering over the years. Will we ever know what happened that Christmas eve so long ago??
But I thought he had no prior history of child molesting and none later either. It is said that a child molester will do it over and over again.
And it doesn't account for things like why that night? They had come home from a party and were scheduled to hop on a place the next morning. Why would he have been up and molesting Jon Benet at that hour? Seems like he'd want to get his sleep.
It also doesn't account for why there were traces of pineapple found in JB's stomach with Patsy denying even feeding her pineapple and never haven seen the spoon before in her life. Yet her fingerprints were on the spoon and so were Burke's. Also lights on in the kitchen in the middle of the night.
There is another strange thing that Patsy said to the women who sewed JB's costumes. She said that we didn't intend for it to go this far. What did she mean by that? Looks like they intended SOMEthing but it went too far, i.e., ended in her death. I think she must have been a crazy person or maybe her medication made her that way. I do believe whatever happened, it was an accident. They certainly didn't mean for her to die.
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All due respect, but I don't think there were any sinister cults involved here or anything of the sort; if JBR said something about men in "long dark coats" that could just have been a child's imagination talking.
Again, I believe what occurred was a tragic, unintentional, and horrible crime that was covered up by the parents. It's unclear whether JR & PR were both involved in the cover-up, but I believe at the least that PR was definitely involved in writing the RN.
All due respect, but I don't think there were any sinister cults involved here or anything of the sort; if JBR said something about men in "long dark coats" that could just have been a child's imagination talking.
Again, I believe what occurred was a tragic, unintentional, and horrible crime that was covered up by the parents. It's unclear whether JR & PR were both involved in the cover-up, but I believe at the least that PR was definitely involved in writing the RN.
I generally agree. I just wonder where these idea of sinister occults keep coming from. That, and that they are said to practice child sacrifice and molestation. Anyway, maybe it's just another red herring that distracts us from the truth. I'm trying to fit in the sexual molestation part.
I really do wonder who was molesting her--and the autopsy report said they also molested her that very night--probably with the paintbrush handle. That could be Patsy trying to make it look like sexual abuse. Hmmm, but what about the autopsy reports that said she had been abused before? Ongoing abuse. All those doctor visits for vaginal infections. Unless that had been Burke playing around previously and Patsy got the idea on the last night just as something weird to add into the whole mystery and throw people off.
Here is the doctor they used to link the sexual assault to prior abuse even though doctors who actually examined the body said only that she was assaulted that night.
McCann is one of the doctors used by BORG as evidence of prior assault. The papers referred to are the BONITA files.
From Webbsleuths.com thread. The source is the "legal secretary's notes."
In August, the Boulder police department contacted Dr. John McCann, one of the nation’s leading experts on child sexual abuse. McCann had agreed to assist the police department in determining if JonBenet had been a victim of sexual abuse during or before her murder. McCann was sent the autopsy report and photos.
The police were contacting people to help with questions they could put to the Ramseys, reports they could use in their questioning. If you read and listen to the interviews, you will see they did say, what if we tell you an expert wrote a report and says this or that? Seraph and McCann were just two of several.
This was perfectly legal and interesting enough, in this case the reports and pressure didn't get any confession. Sad later these "reports" could be used to sway public opinion.
I just wonder where these idea of sinister occults keep coming from. That, and that they are said to practice child sacrifice and molestation.
I really do wonder who was molesting her--.
Sinister occult practices, someones speculation; unless grand jury saw evidence, believe it to be unfounded. LE convinced Patsy the perp. It doesn't match whats been released by grand jury indictment
Grand jury indictment released in 2013 open to interpretation, doesn't specifically name a third person.
Pam and Nedra, fixtures in the Ramsey household. In Pams interviews, she's adamant JB was never left unattended by a family during or outside of pagents. If in fact true; my impression any abuse occurred within the home.
Could the intervention of JBs school and PRs neighbors staging the intervention set everyone into a tail spin?
I think Nedra ,Don and John decided JB had to go.I believe Nedra wrote the RN and Don hired a hitman.I think Patsy and Burke may have been ruffied to be silent and to not intervene, that's why Patsy was in same clothes..Remember,Nedra and Don were the sole caretakers of JB and BR when patst was away and ill for 2 years.I think they were used to make child porn in that time frame.Hence,both kids strange toilet issues.
I think Patsy suspected the sexual abuse,as I believe she was also sexually abused by BOTH her parents.Their dirty deeds were catching up to them.
The My Twinn Doll may have been bought as a prop to carry early that morning to pretend it was JB. I don't think John expected Patsy to call the police. If she was in on it,she would have let John get JB out.
Patsy sounded too sincere on 911 tape,and so did Burke. I think they made a snuff film.Being the business man John was and if he led the porn ring,its possible.
I think it was Nedras idea to leave the body to have the big,dramatic funeral. Nedra said RN looked like Patsy's writing.
I guess when Patsy recovered they didn't want to stop their lucrative child porn and Patsy was getting in the way.I think the RN was a work in progress and delivered by Don to set Patsy up.I think John planted Burke's knife to shut him up and blackmail him..I think the porn ring went very high up and that's why it was sabbotaged from the beginning.
I think Nedra ,Don and John decided JB had to go.I believe Nedra wrote the RN and Don hired a hitman.I think Patsy and Burke may have been ruffied to be silent and to not intervene
I'd imagine they'd have to kill Patsy first.
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