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Old 12-01-2016, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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Originally Posted by Chicago60614 View Post
The craziest part is someone did an overlay of the census tracks in the city and the murders through mid-November.

64% of the population of Chicago lives in a census tract that's had zero murders this year. Those other 36% of the population is dealing with everything.
Isn't that crazy? It's not a tale of two cities, it's a tale of two totally different worlds. 2/3 first world 1/3 third world.

 
Old 12-01-2016, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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Originally Posted by Chicago60614 View Post
The craziest part is someone did an overlay of the census tracks in the city and the murders through mid-November.

64% of the population of Chicago lives in a census tract that's had zero murders this year. Those other 36% of the population is dealing with everything.
If that's true, it would put the homicide rate in that 36% of the city at 83 per 100k - far outpacing even the worst cities of 2016; however, I'm sure you could apply the same sort of cherry-picking to Baltimore, Birmingham, or St. Louis to come up with similarly dangerous areas with absurdly high homicide rates - maybe even worse
 
Old 12-01-2016, 09:50 AM
 
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There is also an extraordinary amount of violent crime in the neighborhoods that don't have homicides due to the limited police presence of which the bad guys are well aware.

Lakeview, Lincoln Park, Rogers Park -- the criminals are everywhere and the police are absent.

Basically everyone is suffering.
 
Old 12-01-2016, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Baltimore now at 290 homicides.
 
Old 12-01-2016, 12:28 PM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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11 months of the year gone, and both of the two largest cities in Virginia are having their worst year in a decade:

After 5 November murders, and an early East End murder at 130 this morning, the capital city of Richmond has 61 murders year-to-date. That puts the city'sitting current rate at 27.73 per 100,000 (61/27.73). Currently, that's 18 more than last year, an increase of 42%...

This year will finish as the most violent year in Richmond since 2006, when the city had a 76/37.78 murders/murder rate showing. In that decade of falling crime since '06, Richmond saw its murder and violent crime rates drop to truly historic lows, averaging 40/19.28 in the nine years of 2007-2015. Rich bottomed out at 31 murders in '08, and had only two years with a 20-per murder rate ('07 and '12). The increase is striking and puzzling because of the wide gentrification and large scale growth within the last decade that in part had been attributed to falling crime...

Norfolk also had 5 murders in November, pushing it's year-to-date total to 44. That's a 17.89 per 100k mark (44/17.89). That figure is already 16 up on last years total, a current increase of 57%...

Norfolk is experiencing it's worst year since 2007, when the city posted a 48/21.05 murder rate. It's on pace to equal or surpass that by year-end; if Norfolk has at least 49 murders, that would then be the worst year since 2005! The eight-year period between 2008-2015 saw Norfolk average 31 murders at a 12.74 per 100k clip (31/12.74). Norfolk bottomed out at 28 murders three times ('08, '13, '15) and in this eight year window never even hit 35 murders, so the rise in Norfolk is all the more striking. It will be interesting to see whether this is a one-year aberration for Norfolk or the start of a dangerous trend...

In other news, Newport News actually had the worst November, with seven murders. That city now has a year-to-date of 24/13.11. Hampton Roads through November 30th:

Norfolk 44/17.89...Virginia Beach 14/3.09...Newport News 24/13.11...Portsmouth 9/9.38...Hampton 21/15.44...Chesapeake 13/5.53...Suffolk 3/3.45...

Petersburg has 5/15.15 after a record-setting 16/48.48 last year. Hopewell has 3/13.64...
 
Old 12-01-2016, 12:30 PM
 
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Um do you think all the black people just got up ans left? The city has over 2 million black people, and the drop in crime applies to neighborhoods that are still heavily black as well.
That's the point I was making. There's the demographic shift happening within the black population that resides in the city itself. African Americans are leaving the city and are being replaced by foreign blacks. Foreign blacks don't commit nearly as much crime as native blacks do because they're not entangled in a gang and survival culture and mentality. It's not a politically correct thing to say though. NYC's black population is rather unique in that half of it is literally black immigrants. It's probably why the drop in crime and murder has been even more pronounced and dramatic than in other cities over the last 25 years.
 
Old 12-01-2016, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Absolutely awful.

Just to put things in perspective, that is more homicides than the entire country of Canada thus far in 2016. By a couple hundred. A country of 36 million has several hundred less homicides than a city of 2.7 million.
It's more homicides than the whole UK and Italy get in all 12 months too. Both countries are about 60 million people and about 500 homicides.

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Old 12-01-2016, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Philadelphia is at 256 with one month left in the year. This should be the 4th consecutive year for Philadelphia under 300 homicides.
 
Old 12-01-2016, 04:11 PM
 
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There is also an extraordinary amount of violent crime in the neighborhoods that don't have homicides due to the limited police presence of which the bad guys are well aware.

Lakeview, Lincoln Park, Rogers Park -- the criminals are everywhere and the police are absent.

Basically everyone is suffering.
I live in Lincoln Park/Lakeview and absolutely love it. I'm certainly not suffering, I don't know many of my neighbors or friends that are suffering at the moment, certainly not from violent crime which hasn't touched us.

Not that it isn't bad in many south and west areas - but much of the city doesn't experience anything like that.
 
Old 12-01-2016, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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If that's true, it would put the homicide rate in that 36% of the city at 83 per 100k - far outpacing even the worst cities of 2016; however, I'm sure you could apply the same sort of cherry-picking to Baltimore, Birmingham, or St. Louis to come up with similarly dangerous areas with absurdly high homicide rates - maybe even worse
I looked last year and some of the worst areas of St. Louis have homicide rates of like 200/300 per 100k, which is insane, it is literally like a warzone! Chicago is astonishing in its own way because of the sheer raw size of the population
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