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The urban strips far outnumber the strip malls and other "un urban" areas you cherry pick through.
It's only non-cherry picking to you if we choose the most flattering commercial strip (as if any commerical strip won't have storefronts) possible. Is this or is this not in the "core? And do Boston, NYC, Philly, DC, or Chicago have places that look like this in their cores?
It doesn't matter how big your core is if it looks like that with an occasional two blocks of urban walkability thrown in. If you love LA, then you should really love Arlington. At least Arlington has better public transit.
-Eric Eidlin, "The Worst of All Worlds: Los Angeles, California and the Emerging Reality of Dense Sprawl"
-Interview with Donald Shoup, former Chair of the UCLA Department of Urban Planning
This is the "active street life," "tightly knit neighborhoods," and "urban density" they were talking about. An ecosystem of tightly-connected, highly walkable neighborhoods where you can turn corner after corner without seeing a series of streets that look like Queens Chapel Road in Chillum, MD.
Again, you and your lord and savior Donald Shoup's criticisms of L.A.'s urban form are irrelevant. They're opinions, nothing more. What is relevant is that Los Angeles has the second densest core after NYC (surprise, surprise) and is the densest UA in the country. No appeals to authority needed, just the facts. Pretending that D.C. (which struggles to be as dense as the San Fernando Valley, no joke.) is more urban than L.A. proper is comical.
I'm still waiting on the video where some guy walks out of his out into the streets, walks to the corner store, stops to talk to a group of his friends standing on the corner, etc. I mean, in a city of 3.7 million people, there has to be one person who's made such a video, right? Do guys even hang on the corners in the big urban, walkable metropolis of LA? They probably drive to the corners.
If Jill Scott had made her video for "A Long Walk" in Los Angeles, would she have had to rename it "A Long Drive?"
Again, you and your lord and savior Donald Shoup's criticisms of L.A.'s urban form are irrelevant. They're opinions, nothing more. What is relevant is that Los Angeles has the second densest core after NYC (surprise, surprise) and is the densest UA in the country. No appeals to authority needed, just the facts. Pretending that D.C. (which struggles to be as dense as the San Fernando Valley, no joke.) is more urban than L.A. proper is comical.
Right...
A guy who's lived in Los Angeles longer than most of us have been alive, studies urban planning for a living, and tours the country giving speeches on urban planning has completely irrelevant opinions when it comes to LA's urbanity. I'm seriously curious as to why people aren't paying you guys to write books, write articles and give lectures. Certainly your opinion is more relevant than his.
It's only non-cherry picking to you if we choose the most flattering commercial strip (as if any commerical strip won't have storefronts) possible. Is this or is this not in the "core? And do Boston, NYC, Philly, DC, or Chicago have places that look like this in their cores?
It doesn't matter how big your core is if it looks like that with an occasional two blocks of urban walkability thrown in. If you love LA, then you should really love Arlington. At least Arlington has better public transit.
I'm still waiting on the video where some guy walks out of his out into the streets, walks to the corner store, stops to talk to a group of his friends standing on the corner, etc. I mean, in a city of 3.7 million people, there has to be one person who's made such a video, right? Do guys even hang on the corners in the big urban, walkable metropolis of LA? They probably drive to the corners.
If Jill Scott had made her video for "A Long Walk" in Los Angeles, would she have had to rename it "A Long Drive?"
I'm not sure why this was directed at me. I genuinely think a 25 year old rap video would finally advance this discussion in a meaningful way.
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