09-25-2013, 04:53 PM
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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Looks very beautiful! A little different from what I was imaging as well but no complaints on my part. It really does look like a massive cruise ship or ark that's both neo-futuristic yet classically monumental. Can't wait for the interior renderings! And I'm still curious on what big-chef names MGM is planning for us as well as the high-end luxury boutiques (I remember reading an article stating that among the new luxury stores will be a Louis Vuitton and Fendi). The fountain is definitely going to be one of the best assets for the casino/resort!
09-25-2013, 07:22 PM
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Interview With Murren
Great interview with MGM CEO Murren. He touched on two interesting points. One point that I stressed back when the referendum vote took place.
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In the video rendering it appears to be at a distance from National Harbor complex itself. Is that just the rendering, or will it be that far from National Harbor? We want to create a trolley system that will easily allow folks to experience National Harbor.
Will you look at that? Forward thinking.
Now, he
did say they wanted to
create a trolley system. Stopped short of saying who will pay for it. lol But, at least he's thinking ahead.
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What does a gambler want and expect from a 21st-century casino? The international resort is a very different business model—different design, different objectives. We try to attract an international and national customer. They travel around the world. They are very refined. They are very demanding and expect the best of the best.
Boom! This is much different than Hollywood Casinos by Penn National and Parx. MGM is thinking nationally and internationally, as seen by their hard work at the architecture. This was never going to be a parlor room with slots and cheap liquor. I think some people assumed that it would be.
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http://www.washingtonian.com/blogs/c...-crabcakes.php
09-25-2013, 08:07 PM
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Will you look at that? Forward thinking. did say they wanted to create a trolley system. Stopped short of saying who will pay for it. lol But, at least he's thinking ahead.
You're right that is forward thinking. I wonder if it will just be within the confines of the Harbor or extend to one of the metro stations. Would it only be for Harbor patrons or could it also supplement commuters. I can see them contributing to the initial cost or do the public-private partnership that the state is pushing. Remember that the 5 M a year for the first 5 to 10 years is supposed to go to infrastructure. That could contribute.
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Boom! This is much different than Hollywood Casinos by Penn National and Parx. MGM is thinking nationally and internationally, as seen by their hard work at the architecture. This was never going to be a parlor room with slots and cheap liquor. I think some people assumed that it would be.
Big time.....The Hollywood proposal is pretty bland and in all honest I don't trust their intent. My thought is that they are only trying to is make sure they recapture what they are loosing in WV. Parx is cool but this will be there second casino...I don't think they have the experience to play in a market other than local/regional at the moment.
Quick Commercial break......three more stores have been added to the Tanger line-up: ELIE TAHARI
Charlotte Russe Outlet and Diane von Furstenberg. I am not familiar with them so I am not sure how they rank in terms of upscale etc. Can anyone provide some insight on their calibur?
09-25-2013, 08:55 PM
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Now this is something that I can appreciate. Focusing hiring in the county..
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During the unveiling, Murren said MGM will uphold its promise to bring international revenue and high-paying jobs to Prince George’s County if selected to build the resort.
MGM unveils plans for possible National Harbor casino -- Gazette.Net
09-25-2013, 09:46 PM
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Any links to the other bids and their renderings?
09-25-2013, 10:16 PM
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09-26-2013, 06:18 AM
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Here goes the thing I am wondering. How cohesive will National Harbor be with the casino? I mean they were discussing possible high-end retail at the casino, but what does that mean for the shops currently at National Harbor? Also how do they plan on supporting the MGM hotel and the conference center so that they can both co-exist.
09-26-2013, 07:54 AM
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How cohesive will National Harbor be with the casino? I mean they were discussing possible high-end retail at the casino, but what does that mean for the shops currently at National Harbor?
If what they are offering is truly high end (some of the retailers they mentioned early in the process were Fendi, Louis Vutton, and some other brands that I would pay full price for lol) then that is a different price point from what is offered by other shops at the national harbor. I don't see the average consumer buying in that class as often as say someone buying something from South Moon. I think that the existing shops will be impacted more by Tanger than any upscale shops offered at MGM.
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Also how do they plan on supporting the MGM hotel and the conference center so that they can both co-exist.
I assume that has been taken into consideration because Gaylord/Marriot was one of the main hotels backing them coming to the National Harbor. From what I understand MGM will have meeting spaces but not conference space. That places them into another categories in terms of what groups they would attract. I also think that MGM would benefit the other hotels because they would offer amenities that guests from other hotels can attend without having to be guests at MGM. The other thing to consider is that MGM will only have 500 rooms at best compared to Gaylord's 2000 so that limits the number of large groups MGM would handle vs the Gaylord. That said, I think they could co-exist. I think the bigger challenge will be MGM with other hotels both on and off property. More so off property since, in my opinion, the other NH hotels, target a specific market with minimal overlap.
09-26-2013, 08:04 AM
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Seems to be alot more smoke in the air about a metro coming to National Harbor, I wonder if MGM has made Petterson rethink his stance on a metro...of course it would be from the yellow not the green. Where would the metro go?
09-26-2013, 08:19 AM
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Seems to be alot more smoke in the air about a metro coming to National Harbor, I wonder if MGM has made Petterson rethink his stance on a metro...of course it would be from the yellow not the green. Where would the metro go?
I know in recent years NH has been pushing for metro to come out there but unfortunately its not as simple as making a business case for it. Remember NOVA was lobbying for the silver line for about 30 years before it broke ground. The bigger question is where is it on the priority list for WMATA, the state of MD, and the state of VA since they would be footing the bill for it. If it was a choice between the two yellow would definitely come before green. If for no other reason access to the airport is easier off the yellow line. As for where it would go that is a good question. I'm thinking an underground station would be the best route at this point. Then dig a tunnel(s) to MGM or one of the travel centers, or convert that kiss and ride to a station and have a pedestrian tunnel to go under OHR.
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Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Interview With Murren
Now, he did say they wanted to create a trolley system. Stopped short of saying who will pay for it. lol But, at least he's thinking ahead. 
