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Old 07-08-2021, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Portal to the Pacific
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Maybe. Maybe it's perspective, too. One thunderstorm in a year is pretty unusual by my definition, Koala. I also think weather is variable enough, and our memories faulty enough, that we are selective about what we remember, and how much climate change has really changed things. In our lifetime, we're likely to see a few degrees change in average climate, and with faulty selective memory and natural variables all the time, I don't think it's been enough for any of us to really notice, some just think they do.

When we had the big down pour last week before the fourth, I remember saying "wow... it never rains like this this time of year... and then I saw in my facebook memories a big downpour a year or two earlier."
What down pour? Last week?

We didn't get that up here unfortunately.
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Old 07-08-2021, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Rochester, WA
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What down pour? Last week?

We didn't get that up here unfortunately.
Yes. Middle of June we had a fairly major rain event. Depending on the station, 1.5 - 2 inches fell within a day or two. Most of it fell on the 13th. It felt like October!
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Old 07-08-2021, 11:15 PM
 
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Yes. Middle of June we had a fairly major rain event. Depending on the station, 1.5 - 2 inches fell within a day or two. Most of it fell on the 13th. It felt like October!
Middle of June, yes, I remember. It was chilly too, right? I was taking a bee keeping class and I was worried it was too wet to get into the hives, and it was probably on the edge of reasonable, but it went fine.
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Old 07-08-2021, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Rochester, WA
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Glad you remember! for a minute I thought I was crazy. It was only a couple weeks ago :-) time flies!
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Old 07-09-2021, 07:30 AM
 
Location: West Coast U.S.A.
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Maybe. Maybe it's perspective, too. One thunderstorm in a year is pretty unusual by my definition, Koala. I also think weather is variable enough, and our memories faulty enough, that we are selective about what we remember, and how much climate change has really changed things. In our lifetime, we're likely to see a few degrees change in average climate, and with faulty selective memory and natural variables all the time, I don't think it's been enough for any of us to really notice, some just think they do.

When we had the big down pour last week before the fourth, I remember saying "wow... it never rains like this this time of year... and then I saw in my facebook memories a big downpour a year or two earlier."
Great answer, Diana!

I don't agree that the difference is too small to notice, but yes, most perceived "climate change" comes from selective and faulty memory seeing patterns when none are there.

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Yes. Middle of June we had a fairly major rain event. Depending on the station, 1.5 - 2 inches fell within a day or two. Most of it fell on the 13th. It felt like October!
Good one!
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Old 07-10-2021, 01:15 AM
 
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Upper midwest doesn't seem to get much smoke or hurricanes. Does it some bugs, including ticks, but I'm not the kind to go marching around the woods much anyway. Flooding can mostly be avoided too if you find maps and know the area. If you put me back in the neighborhoods I've lived in (TX, WI, MI) I would be able tell you which streets you need to avoid.

Tornados are moving east. Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas aren't as affected by them as when I lived there (TX and OK).

The biggest compromise, in my opinion, is the general discomfort. PNW is mostly comfortable for most of the year. Anything out east past the Cascades is going to involved more heat and once you get to areas that bring up the gulf moisture you'll get heat and humidity.
That's not even mentioning the brutal cold and snow you can get with the polar vortex!
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Old 07-10-2021, 12:16 PM
 
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That's not even mentioning the brutal cold and snow you can get with the polar vortex!
I didn't mention it because I actually looked forward to big cold or big snow. It always put me in the mood to bake, drink hot chocolate and watch movies.
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Old 07-10-2021, 01:03 PM
 
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I didn't mention it because I actually looked forward to big cold or big snow. It always put me in the mood to bake, drink hot chocolate and watch movies.
I find the first storm or 2 to be fun for that, after that no thanks for me! Especially when it's 30 below wind chill and your power goes out.
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Old 07-10-2021, 01:34 PM
 
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I find the first storm or 2 to be fun for that, after that no thanks for me! Especially when it's 30 below wind chill and your power goes out.
Never experienced power outages until I moved to the area. Now between my 3 properties in two adjacent cities I experience them about once every other month. We had one two weeks ago. I don't understand it.

None of my upper midwest kinfolk, several generations going back in MN, IL and WI have experienced bad or random power outages like I have in my ten years in the PNW. One of my properties went 4 days last January. It wasn't even a particularly bad wind storm. Don't think even a leading story for the local news.

I had a F3 tornado come raging through my north Dallas suburb in the 90's. Killed several people and destroyed the historic areas of the town next door. We lost parts of our roof, fence and trees.

And we were only without power for 3 days!
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Old 07-13-2021, 12:17 AM
 
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Never experienced power outages until I moved to the area. Now between my 3 properties in two adjacent cities I experience them about once every other month. We had one two weeks ago. I don't understand it.

None of my upper midwest kinfolk, several generations going back in MN, IL and WI have experienced bad or random power outages like I have in my ten years in the PNW. One of my properties went 4 days last January. It wasn't even a particularly bad wind storm. Don't think even a leading story for the local news.

I had a F3 tornado come raging through my north Dallas suburb in the 90's. Killed several people and destroyed the historic areas of the town next door. We lost parts of our roof, fence and trees.

And we were only without power for 3 days!

Haha, we were without power for a week in subzero temps in the Midwest when I was growing up, rural areas are the last to get serviced like any other state.

Had family without power for quite a while after this.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/p...can-ames-power

I don't know if I'd hold up the Texas power grid as an example!
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