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Old 11-26-2011, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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You took the words right out of my mouth!

Never underestimate the ability of that subtropical high east of the Bahamas to show its power at any time of year.

I would wait at least until next week to see where the models go...
Yes, the southeast ridge has more of a direct impact on the I-95 corridor southward. What are you thinking for interior northern New England? More seasonable temps and snowfall by early to mid December?
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Old 11-27-2011, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn,NY
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This pattern change is just taking much too long. Even after next weekend temps don't look much below average at all. Oh well. I am not holding out too much hope for decent snow and cold on a consistent basis this winter east of the Rockies.
It's only November. Still have December - March

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The GFS computer model found on the NCEP operations homepage. The GFS model comes out 4 times a day and I mainly look at the 500mb thickness charts to gauge temperature trends in the medium and longer range.
The GFS is a good model but the Euro is better.



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Yes, the southeast ridge has more of a direct impact on the I-95 corridor southward. What are you thinking for interior northern New England? More seasonable temps and snowfall by early to mid December?
I think northern New England will have a great winter. It is really typical in a La Nina.
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Old 11-27-2011, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Do you have a link to the Euro model? I know that others have said for the GFS that the 0Z and 12Z are usually held at a higher regard than the 6Z and 18Z. Is that the case?
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Old 11-28-2011, 06:16 PM
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November Blowtorch pattern was definitely true for areas of the Northeastern USA.
New York City had a record high of 70 degrees today.
This was the 7th warmest November on record for New York City. For Boston, this tied the 2nd warmest November on record. Worchester Massachusetts tied for 1st place the all time warmest November in recorded history.
Record Warmth in the Big Apple - weather.com (http://www.weather.com/outlook/weather-news/news/articles/record-warmth-northeast_2011-11-28 - broken link)
Wow, and this happened right after a record October snowstorm and when some places in the Northeast had record lows for Late October and record snow (Such as New York City, areas of Massachusetts, Philadelphia, other spots in the Northeast too).

However, this November areas of the Midwest, South, and Western USA had mostly average and even below average temperatures.
Areas of the South the next 2 days might be experiencing a somewhat rare November snowstorm. Rare November Snow in the South - weather.com
Places like Vermont, New Hampshire, and Upstate New York state the past 2 days and for tomorrow are warmer than Georgia, Missisippi, Alabama, including the city of Atlanta! The past two nights those areas of the Northeast were also much warmer than Texas. That seems to be rare for Late November.
Most of Alaska(Especially Fairbanks) had one of the coldest November’s in recorded history.
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Old 11-28-2011, 07:46 PM
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that's a strange combination! It's way too warm for it to snow in the next few days. As I found out in another thread, it's colder in Houston than here.
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Old 11-29-2011, 01:47 PM
 
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that's a strange combination! It's way too warm for it to snow in the next few days. As I found out in another thread, it's colder in Houston than here.
Unfortunately, the NAO and AO are still in positive territory. It will gradually get colder, but the southeast ridge is very strong.
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Old 11-29-2011, 03:11 PM
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Unfortunately?! A positive NAO and AO should keep things warmer, right?
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:57 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Unfortunately?! A positive NAO and AO should keep things warmer, right?
Some people want winter.

I would like a repeat of December 2010. Basically the entire month was cold.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Unfortunately?! A positive NAO and AO should keep things warmer, right?
Unfortunately for those that LIKE colder temperatures and snow possibilities.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:20 PM
 
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Some people want winter.

I would like a repeat of December 2010. Basically the entire month was cold.
I think December will likely be warmer than average for the East Coast but obviously much colder than the current month of November. Check the AO as it is forecasted to be 4 standard deviations above the average. The ridge of high pressure in the west is the only thing going right now for those that want some colder air down the road. If the PNA was still in negative territory it would be a continuation of blowtorching on the East Coast indefinitely.
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