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Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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This man speaks the truth. I don't want 4 PM sunsets in early winter, and I don't need 4:50 AM sunrises in the summer. Waste of light, time, energy, money, and overall more depressing. Save it for poor Central / Eastern Europeans who have no choice.
Well he lives on the extreme east of the timezone so he can dream on. The UK will never join CET, if you don't want 4pm sunsets you need to nove locations.
This man speaks the truth. I don't want 4 PM sunsets in early winter, and I don't need 4:50 AM sunrises in the summer. Waste of light, time, energy, money, and overall more depressing. Save it for poor Central / Eastern Europeans who have no choice.
I like my 4:35am sunrises in June - I don't want to get rid of them. I'm rarely up that early but on the occasions that I am, it's lovely to take a walk before 5am when it's broad daylight and nobody else is about. It's almost surreal, even when you're used to it. A sunrise after 5am in June seems very late to me. In Western Spain it's even worse - likely to be still dark when I'm up for work in the middle of summer. That's retarded.
Plus, 9:41pm (my latest sunset time) is perfectly late enough for a summer sunset. I feel that we have the correct balance, and Spain in particular is totally whack. Having 7am sunrises and 10pm sunsets is unbelievably absurd and even an idiot can admit that it's unnatural.
Plus, 9:41pm (my latest sunset time) is perfectly late enough for a summer sunset. I feel that we have the correct balance, and Spain in particular is totally whack. Having 7am sunrises and 10pm sunsets is unbelievably absurd and even an idiot can admit that it's unnatural.
That's excessive, but when I was younger I would have liked that setup. 6:30 am to 9:30 pm is fine, though early sunrises have its nice points as you said.
I'm not sure why should care whether it's "natural" [presumably, natural means noontime is close to solar noon?]
I like my 4:35am sunrises in June - I don't want to get rid of them. I'm rarely up that early but on the occasions that I am, it's lovely to take a walk before 5am when it's broad daylight and nobody else is about. It's almost surreal, even when you're used to it. A sunrise after 5am in June seems very late to me. In Western Spain it's even worse - likely to be still dark when I'm up for work in the middle of summer. That's retarded.
Plus, 9:41pm (my latest sunset time) is perfectly late enough for a summer sunset. I feel that we have the correct balance, and Spain in particular is totally whack. Having 7am sunrises and 10pm sunsets is unbelievably absurd and even an idiot can admit that it's unnatural.
Well, your summer days are longer anyway. Here our latest sunset only comes at around 9pm, so nothing particularly "unnatural" to you. I still wish it was a bit later because I like the... surreal effect of late sunsets. At least it's better than southern Italy which is also a lot more east than we are.
Also, It's ok to have preferences and enjoying getting up at 4 AM (if I'm up at that time it's usually because I'm still out.... You can't decently start a party or an evening with people here before at least 10 or 11 in the evening unfortunately), but for the 976th time, nobody has yet told me what is "natural" about earlier sunrises / sunsets, unless you are a farmer far from civilization who goes to sleep at 8 pm, (and in that case you would not worry about actual time anyway), most people would use ARTIFICIAL light to live in that configuration, so I don't see what would be natural about it. I mean, it is pretty incoherent reasoning.
That's excessive, but when I was younger I would have liked that setup. 6:30 am to 9:30 pm is fine, though early sunrises have its nice points as you said.
I'm not sure why should care whether it's "natural" [presumably, natural means noontime is close to solar noon?]
who gives a **** about that, seriously ? People do not live like 200 years ago.
In Lyon it is 5:50 am to 9:35 pm with DST, otherwise it would be 4:50 to 8:35 pm and that would be pointless. I mean, DST was created in the 60's to save energy and time to begin with, because society had changed.
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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Ok, don't curse in my language thanks. Anyway, plenty do, it would get rediculous if the British Isles was using gmt +3 to get midnight sunsets, we would have "noon" at 9am and EARLIER. How rediculous would that look? Well it would be awful, it would be dark to 8am in summer and the afternoon would look like morning!
For real??? I mean come on, its really time we remap the timezones (because they are all WRONG) and get rid of this dst nonsense, we have fallen out of reality.
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