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Old 03-24-2017, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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Because for a lot of people summer weather is equated with activities near, in or on the water.


For these, it's nicer if the water is warm, or at least the air temperature is warm (as in California), or both.
Southsea beach is always packed during the summer & people in & out on the water too, so I guess it's nice enough for many...
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Old 03-24-2017, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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London has a moderate climate. In summer it isn't hot like in the US, it might be in the 60s or a little above 70. Most of them complain because they want it hotter.

I was there a week ago and in MARCH it was 55 degrees vs below freezing back near Boston with snow. There were daffodils in full bloom and lots of other flowers too, bright green grass, trees coming into leaf. Granted, it had been a mild winter with an early spring, but it was really nice.

Here's a picture from Devon on the south coast taken about March 10th. People in shorts walking around. I'm not sure how far this is from London but the country is small and temperatures don't vary too much from one area to the other:

To be fair to Boston, this March is 4.4F below average, while London is over 4F above average. Last year Boston ended the month of March 4F above average, and they had 8 days over 55F including days in the upper 60'sF and upper 70'sF right on the water at Logan Airport. Just not good to make such short comparisons between climates.

I can understand why London or British posters get annoyed by this whole "London has a hellish climate" thing. It is just so much of a ridiculous exaggeration. London is mild in winter, spring, summer and fall. It is a mild kind of harmless climate that allows all kinds of outdoor activities. If the people living there enjoy those summer temps and can enjoy summer activities like swimming, boating, picnicking, etc then it is not a hellish climate. Far worse in the world. Some of us with different backgrounds and coming from different climates find the summers weak and cloudy, but those living there for the most part don't. Some in the US think Philly has a moderate winter climate, while those with UK preferences find it harsh and cold and snowy. It is all relative when it comes down to it.

Maybe we should try to stop exaggerating the flaws in climates we don't like. And that includes people in the UK saying we live in an arctic wasteland in winter.
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Old 03-24-2017, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Because for a lot of people summer weather is equated with activities near, in or on the water.


For these, it's nicer if the water is warm, or at least the air temperature is warm (as in California), or both.

Current LaJolla water temp in S. Calif is 62F which isn't shabby for one month removed from winter. Warmer than some places in the height of summer.
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Old 03-24-2017, 11:51 AM
 
Location: C: Home R: Monroe CT, Climate:Dfa
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To be fair to Boston, this March is 4.4F below average, while London is over 4F above average. Last year Boston ended the month of March 4F above average, and they had 8 days over 55F including days in the upper 60'sF and upper 70'sF right on the water at Logan Airport. Just not good to make such short comparisons between climates.

I can understand why London or British posters get annoyed by this whole "London has a hellish climate" thing. It is just so much of a ridiculous exaggeration. London is mild in winter, spring, summer and fall. It is a mild kind of harmless climate that allows all kinds of outdoor activities. If the people living there enjoy those summer temps and can enjoy summer activities like swimming, boating, picnicking, etc then it is not a hellish climate. Far worse in the world. Some of us with different backgrounds and coming from different climates find the summers weak and cloudy, but those living there for the most part don't. Some in the US think Philly has a moderate winter climate, while those with UK preferences find it harsh and cold and snowy. It is all relative when it comes down to it.

Maybe we should try to stop exaggerating the flaws in climates we don't like. And that includes people in the UK saying we live in an arctic wasteland in winter.
Yes London isn't the worst climate out there. There are climates in the UK that are far worse than London. It would have nicer summers if it had 60% possible sun during the summer months and was drier.
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Old 03-24-2017, 11:54 AM
 
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Because for a lot of people summer weather is equated with activities near, in or on the water.


For these, it's nicer if the water is warm, or at least the air temperature is warm (as in California), or both.
But I wasn't making a comparison with places that are famous for beach culture. Portsmouth is better known for things such as sailing.

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Old 03-24-2017, 12:05 PM
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Location: Surrey/London
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Yes London isn't the worst climate out there. There are climates in the UK that are far worse than London. It would have nicer summers if it had 60% possible sun during the summer months and was drier.
London is already quite dry during spring and summer. Would you rather there was 0 precip between June-Aug?
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Old 03-24-2017, 12:10 PM
 
Location: C: Home R: Monroe CT, Climate:Dfa
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London is already quite dry during spring and summer. Would you rather there was 0 precip between June-Aug?
It could have a little less than 30 mm per month.
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Old 03-24-2017, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Southsea beach is always packed during the summer & people in & out on the water too, so I guess it's nice enough for many...
Oh, I know this for a fact.


People make do with what they have.


There are some pretty nice beaches north of Winnipeg as well believe it or not, with average water temperatures around 20C and air temperatures around 25C in the summer.
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Old 03-24-2017, 12:14 PM
 
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It could have a little less than 30 mm per month.
I think it has just about enough. Something has got to keep those trees looking green.
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Old 03-24-2017, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Current LaJolla water temp in S. Calif is 62F which isn't shabby for one month removed from winter. Warmer than some places in the height of summer.
Well, San Diego County where La Jolla is located is the notable exception in California when it comes to ocean water temperatures.


Even as far south as the LA area in mid-summer the water is still pretty cool.


But you already know this of course.
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