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Old 03-24-2017, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Isn't that how most people feel?


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It's hard to make that assumption conclusively.


If you look at the U.S., which has extensive subtropical regions that have lots of dynamic urban areas, fully half of the largest cities are still in the colder part of the country.


Obviously, not everyone who lives in the northern U.S. is there because they love the cold, but not everyone who lives in warmer areas loves the weather down there either.
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Old 03-24-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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To be fair to Boston, this March is 4.4F below average, while London is over 4F above average. Last year Boston ended the month of March 4F above average, and they had 8 days over 55F including days in the upper 60'sF and upper 70'sF right on the water at Logan Airport. Just not good to make such short comparisons between climates.
March averages colder here than London by some 3C. However we get extreme swings in temps more cold than warm, which sucks for spring, but we still see more 60F+ and 70F+ days here on average than London does in the March. In fact right now we are pushing 80F/27C


Our averages over take London by late March or early April.
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Old 03-24-2017, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Generally speaking, it's true that relatively few people would like cold weather all the time.


But I would also say that the remaining mass of the population (most of us) is probably divided, somewhat more evenly than is acknowledged, between those who like seasonal variation (eg some variant of four seasons), and those who'd take warm to hot weather year-round.
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Old 03-24-2017, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Well, San Diego County where La Jolla is located is the notable exception in California when it comes to ocean water temperatures.


Even as far south as the LA area in mid-summer the water is still pretty cool.


But you already know this of course.

I think that is all relative though. Would someone who swims in the North Sea find the water temps of S. Calif cold. Or people from Argentina or New Zealand where the water is colder? The water in S. Calif routinely reaches and surpasses 70F in summer, some years more than others. It warms up and cools down based on the wind direction just like everywhere else.
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Old 03-24-2017, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I think that is all relative though. Would someone who swims in the North Sea find the water temps of S. Calif cold. Or people from Argentina or New Zealand where the water is colder? The water in S. Calif routinely reaches and surpasses 70F in summer, some years more than others. It warms up and cools down based on the wind direction just like everywhere else.
I found the sea in San Luis Obispo colder in late May, than the sea at home in late November. It was quite a shock.
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Old 03-24-2017, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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You get a couple, but most people don't really mention the weather either way. I can imagine someone in Manchester or Newcastle moaning about the temperature, but not here.

Brisbane CBD isn't oppressively hot, most days in summer are around 27-29c, and it rarely reaches 32c+. It's also very breezy compared to here, which nullifies the humidity. I hardly ever used AC when I lived there, as opening the windows to create a breeze was usually enough.
Not sure how long you lived in Brisbane but that doesn't seem right. Average summer maximum is 30°C and you can see here most days it's 29-31°C.

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Old 03-24-2017, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I found the sea in San Luis Obispo colder in late May, than the sea at home in late November. It was quite a shock.
That makes sense, SLO is north of Pt Concepcion, and therefore more in the path of the California Current. While LA and San Diego benefit from the Davidson Counter Current that makes sea temps 10-15°F warmer than SLO northward
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Old 03-24-2017, 01:37 PM
 
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It's hard to make that assumption conclusively.


If you look at the U.S., which has extensive subtropical regions that have lots of dynamic urban areas, fully half of the largest cities are still in the colder part of the country.


Obviously, not everyone who lives in the northern U.S. is there because they love the cold, but not everyone who lives in warmer areas loves the weather down there either.
That's true, but it's largely driven by economics. For many decades, pretty much since the widespread adoption of commercial air-conditioning, there has been a clear trend of shifting demographics towards the south. There has been a great deal of migration from the frost belt towards the sun belt. Almost all of the the country's shrinking cities are in the the mid-west and north-east. Currently 23 of the 29 largest cities in Illinois are shrinking.

With the economy declining, less people are choosing to live in those places.
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Old 03-24-2017, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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March averages colder here than London by some 3C. However we get extreme swings in temps more cold than warm, which sucks for spring, but we still see more 60F+ and 70F+ days here on average than London does in the March. In fact right now we are pushing 80F/27C


Our averages over take London by late March or early April.

They are 1.2C ahead of us on the mean temp in March. In April we are 2.4C ahead of them. Based on their avg between March and April and our daily averages, I think we surpass them around March 29th. For the month of November we are .7C ahead of them. I assume sometime in late Nov early Dec they surpass us. Around 8 months total we are warmer vs 4 months colder.

I assume for your area it is more like 7 months vs 5. Your area would have to be later in April and not late March since we are far warmer than you in March and November.
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Old 03-24-2017, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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I found the sea in San Luis Obispo colder in late May, than the sea at home in late November. It was quite a shock.

Well yeah that is more central CA coast near Morro Bay. Right now the buoy there is reading 55F vs 62F in San Diego CA. In summer the diff would probably be even higher given the orientation of the coast.

I just looked thru the buoy data for San Luis vs LaJolla. For early August 2016 San Luis was reading 17C while LaJolla was reading 24.9C. You think LaJolla would feel colder at 24.9C than your waters around NZ? I wonder what a shock it would feel for someone swimming at LaJolla at 24.9C and then jumping in your waters.
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