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Old 10-12-2015, 10:52 AM
 
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Pretty much sums it up.

On the gloomy side and very temperate.

Not bad, not great.

SE England (London area) has best climate....bordering on good
That's it. It's not ideal for many people, but it's not bad, and certainly nowhere near as bad as legend would have us believe.

 
Old 10-12-2015, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Also, how can it feel warmer here in the Sun than other places?
I think places that get their weather fronts off the sea, have a clearer atmosphere than landlocked places or coastal areas that don't get fronts off the sea.
 
Old 10-12-2015, 11:30 AM
 
Location: York
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I think places that get their weather fronts off the sea, have a clearer atmosphere than landlocked places or coastal areas that don't get fronts off the sea.
The Sun isn't that intense here any time of year. I can easily sit in it here in the peak of the day any time of year.
There have been some places I've been where that just hasn't felt possible to me. I'm sure New Zealand must feel rather intense at times, right?
I just can't see how he/she can justify that comment when most countries will have stronger sunlight than us.
 
Old 10-12-2015, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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There are lots of days, particularly in summer, with barely any wind. There is no cooling effect until you can pretty much smell the ocean. The inland suburbs of Miami are not close to the ocean. The only times it cools down is during a thunderstorm. Shortly after it gets really muggy, though.
Doesn't the massive convection of a thunderstorm mean that air will need to flow in at ground level, to replace the higher pressure? Florida is a long thin peninsula (about 10% larger than the South Island) so the sea would seem the likely source of incoming air.

My area sees the sea breeze ease right up by mid summer, but that is because land/sea temperatures equalise and convection lessens due to more sustained high pressure.
 
Old 10-12-2015, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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The Sun isn't that intense here any time of year. I can easily sit in it here in the peak of the day any time of year.
There have been some places I've been where that just hasn't felt possible to me. I'm sure New Zealand must feel rather intense at times, right?
I just can't see how he/she can justify that comment when most countries will have stronger sunlight than us.
Maybe not then. I haven't experienced the sun in the UK, so can't really comment.

I;m just basing it off here, where it common for people (locals and overseas visitors alike) to comment on sun strength during winter. This can't be due to UV, as winters values in NZ are no higher than other places at the same latitude. It typically seems worse after a fast moving rain event, which is why I associate fronts with strong sun.

The sun can be strong enough here in winter for mild sunburn, but that is due to intense high pressure -which is a different matter.

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Old 10-12-2015, 12:33 PM
 
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Probably not. I haven't experienced the sun in the UK, so can't really comment.
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I have for a few days during the second half of June in 2000, when I was there for a wedding before we headed down to Greece. I don't remember seeing the sun much when I was there, and it was quite chilly for June. I actually needed a jacket (which I did not bring with me). Solar angle in London on June 21st which around the time I was there is a 61.9 degrees. That's 10 degrees lower than us. I would say the difference is the same as Chicago to Orlando in terms of sun intensity
 
Old 10-12-2015, 12:42 PM
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Location: Surrey/London
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I have for a few days during the second half of June in 2000, when I was there for a wedding before we headed down to Greece. I don't remember seeing the sun much when I was there, and it was quite chilly for June. I actually needed a jacket (which I did not bring with me). Solar angle in London on June 21st which around the time I was there is a 61.9 degrees. That's 10 degrees lower than us. I would say the difference is the same as Chicago to Orlando in terms of sun intensity
You were there in an abnormally cold and cloudy spell though, with weather more typical of early October than June.

June 2000 was mostly below average, but a couple of 30c days made sure the month finished with average temps.
http://www.meteociel.fr/climatologie...s=6&annee=2000

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Old 10-12-2015, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I have for a few days during the second half of June in 2000, when I was there for a wedding before we headed down to Greece. I don't remember seeing the sun much when I was there, and it was quite chilly for June. I actually needed a jacket (which I did not bring with me). Solar angle in London on June 21st which around the time I was there is a 61.9 degrees. That's 10 degrees lower than us. I would say the difference is the same as Chicago to Orlando in terms of sun intensity
A niece and nephew were just in the UK (mostly Scotland and the north of England) and said that the people were sometimes apologetic about the weather. They were like .... "that's okay, we didn't come here for the weather". They did comment on FB regarding an impressive thunderstorm though.

Chicago is the same latitude as here. Does the sun feel uncomfortably warm at times during warm winter spells or after frontal rain off the lake?
 
Old 10-12-2015, 01:30 PM
 
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You were there in an abnormally cold and cloudy spell though, with weather more typical of early October than June.

June 2000 was mostly below average, but a couple of 30c days made sure the month finished with average temps.
Meteociel - Climatologie mensuelle de London (UK)
Looking at that link, highs between 16-20C was about what it was if I recall. Yeah it definitely didn't feel like summer, but that didn't stop me from having a blast. London is a great city.


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A niece and nephew were just in the UK (mostly Scotland and the north of England) and said that the people were sometimes apologetic about the weather. They were like .... "that's okay, we didn't come here for the weather". They did comment on FB regarding an impressive thunderstorm though.

Chicago is the same latitude as here. Does the sun feel uncomfortably warm at times during warm winter spells or after frontal rain off the lake?
Not uncomfortably warm, but I guess when there is 100% sunshine, especially by late February when the solar angle is starting to recover, it can feel a little more intense even when the temperature is cold. Hard to explain but it's like I wan't to take off my coat when the sun is hitting me, but I know that it's cold.
 
Old 10-12-2015, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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The south east of England is not a typical British landscape or climate. Most of the British Isles are hilly/mountainous.
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The Se of England is not descriptive or typical of the British Isles climate. The se of England doesn't even have a typical British landscape.
What? The south east of England is the most populated part of the UK, so the landscape/climate there is experienced by more people than who live on a hill or up a mountain

England is flatter than Wales & Scotland, though areas further west & north have more in the way of hills. But even southern England does have hills, cliffs etc.. so your comments are a bit silly to say the least...
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