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View Poll Results: What Location will have the most snow for Dec 10-12 event?
Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1 7.14%
Chicago(ORD), Illinois 2 14.29%
Indianapolis, Indiana 0 0%
Detroit, Michigan 2 14.29%
Lexington, Kentucky 0 0%
Atlanta, Georgia 1 7.14%
Columbus, Ohio 1 7.14%
Pittsburgh, PA 0 0%
Williamsport, PA 0 0%
Philadelphia, PA 0 0%
New York, NY (CPK) 0 0%
Binghamton, NY 3 21.43%
Albany, NY 3 21.43%
Concord, New Hampshire 0 0%
Boston, MA 1 7.14%
None, No Snow is Happening 0 0%
Voters: 14. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-09-2016, 09:21 AM
 
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Latest GFS says that's not the only snow events this week. WOW! And with more Arctic air coming down too! What a pattern for December!


Wednesday the 14th and the storm track is south more this time which means Kentucky gets involved with snow. Perfect track for me!!





Pittsburgh forecast only to Thursday


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Old 12-09-2016, 09:38 AM
 
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Not totally sure about that since the winds would be from the West. The other side of Michigan probably. What is NWS discussion saying there?


Latest GFS doesn't like the Northeast but likes Chicago and northern Indiana





Remember... these are not forecasts, they are possibilities which can change run to run. (GFS updates 4 times a day)


Yeah I'm having a hard time buying into that one, but as the storm moves to the east of us, we can get an injection of lake enhancement from the back end....


Currently our office has this... Expecting a video discussion probably later on today or by tomorrow morning as the track gets more firmly set


Quote:
WWUS43 KLOT 091628
WSWLOT

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL
1028 AM CST FRI DEC 9 2016

...PERIODS OF ACCUMULATING SNOW EXPECTED LATE SATURDAY THROUGH
SUNDAY EVENING...

ILZ003-008-010-100030-
/O.NEW.KLOT.WS.A.0003.161210T2100Z-161212T0900Z/
WINNEBAGO-OGLE-LEE-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...ROCKFORD...OREGON...DIXON
1028 AM CST FRI DEC 9 2016

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH
LATE SUNDAY NIGHT...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN CHICAGO HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM
WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH LATE
SUNDAY NIGHT.

* TIMING...SNOW WILL DEVELOP OVER THE AREA BY MID TO LATE SATURDAY
AFTERNOON AND CONTINUE THROUGH SUNDAY EVENING.

* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...IN EXCESS OF 6 INCHES POSSIBLE.

* MAIN IMPACT...THE POTENTIAL OF SNOW COVERED ROADS AND LOW
VISIBILITIES MAY MAKE TRAVEL HAZARDOUS.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT
SNOW...SLEET...OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL.
CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.

&&

$$

ILZ004>006-011>014-020-022-INZ001-002-100030-
/O.NEW.KLOT.WS.A.0003.161211T0000Z-161212T0900Z/
BOONE-MCHENRY-LAKE IL-DE KALB-KANE-DUPAGE-COOK-KENDALL-WILL-
LAKE IN-PORTER-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...BELVIDERE...WOODSTOCK...WAUKEGAN...
DEKALB...AURORA...ELGIN...WHEATON...CHICAGO...OSWE GO...JOLIET...
GARY...VALPARAISO
1028 AM CST FRI DEC 9 2016

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY EVENING THROUGH
LATE SUNDAY NIGHT...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN CHICAGO HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM
WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY EVENING THROUGH LATE
SUNDAY NIGHT.

* TIMING...SNOW WILL DEVELOP OVER THE AREA BY EARLY SATURDAY
EVENING AND CONTINUE THROUGH SUNDAY EVENING.

* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...IN EXCESS OF 6 INCHES POSSIBLE.

* MAIN IMPACT...THE POTENTIAL OF SNOW COVERED ROADS AND LOW
VISIBILITIES MAY MAKE TRAVEL HAZARDOUS.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT
SNOW...SLEET...OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL.
CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS
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is there a track forecast for this storm? I suppose I could go onto pivotalweather or similar and look at a pressure map. Storm appears to have a zonal track from west to east. I'd go for upstate NY having a greater chance of snow than southern New England if only because we have a higher chance of mild ocean air.
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Old 12-09-2016, 10:35 AM
 
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Yeah I'm having a hard time buying into that one, but as the storm moves to the east of us, we can get an injection of lake enhancement from the back end....
Ohh, great point on the wrap around. Although storm track will have say. GFS says you'll have South, North then West winds as the storm heads to Michigan. I don't think the north winds will be around long enough to produce lake snows. And don't you need NE winds? We'll see.


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is there a track forecast for this storm?
You can use HPC, they put it up as we get closer in time. They are still waiting for better agreement past 7pm Sunday (Click on Surface Low Tracks)





Or like you said, and what I do, is, just play the loop of the models. Tropical TidBits is best for it. Load time is faster than Pivotal.


Don't forget... sometimes its tricky. The main storm may go into the Great Lakes then transfer the energy into a new coastal storm. You'll see this happen on the maps.


Like watch todays GFS say this storm heads to Montreal, then transfer to a coastal storm off Maine Monday night


The stronger the storm is, the worse it is for us. This time we need a weaker storm to not give us rains. Sounds funny, right?
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Old 12-09-2016, 11:07 AM
 
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Detroit...
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Old 12-09-2016, 04:25 PM
 
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Video from Bernie. Always informative. He thinks midwest will get more snow than northeast. 5-7" for chicago too

Widespread snow this weekend
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Old 12-09-2016, 04:37 PM
 
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Latest model run

https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/807351868473098241
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Old 12-09-2016, 04:44 PM
 
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Wiki? Where the source of that data goes to a website for that city? No..


If we're ignoring Mt Washington, there's a few other spots that have over 175" for normal snow. Look into Highmarket, NY or Herman, Michigan with 214" (Source is legit from NOAA's official climate database)



Here's a look at the snowfall normal using official data..


https://twitter.com/Climatologist49/...735040/photo/1









Close up







https://weather.com/safety/winter/ne...aces-most-snow
Does Los Angeles/Palm Springs really have 1-5 inches of snow per annum?
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Old 12-09-2016, 04:56 PM
 
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Latest model run

https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/807351868473098241
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Old 12-09-2016, 05:04 PM
 
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Thats actually NWS forecast. I think. 99% sure. NCEP runs with NWS forecast data. Thats why he mentioned NWS. Let me check something..
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